6 man History

[CT6MFL]

ok, google maps does not support KMZ, rats!

However, you can export your google earth map to KML instead of KMZ, which can be opened by Excel and then saved as either and *.xlsx or a *.csv file, which google maps does support. you will have to play around with it..lol

 

[WV Backer]

Ole Bearkat your intelligence on 6man or 11man football is amazing. Your research is something else. I have to say that you and Granger are the smartest men on this board. I wish I had half of you wisdom.

Don't get the big-head OBK. You're still just a St. Lawrence cotton-picker... with a degree and stuff.

 

[Old Bearkat]

Ole Bearkat your intelligence on 6man or 11man football is amazing. Your research is something else. I have to say that you and Granger are the smartest men on this board. I wish I had half of you wisdom.

Don't get the big-head OBK. You're still just a St. Lawrence cotton-picker... with a degree and stuff.

That's what my oldest son says too. He calls me an educated redneck geek.

 

[Old Bearkat]

Back on the team of the decade stuff.......

The 1990's - Panther Creek

It was not even close.

 

[Shad Kline]

Back on the team of the decade stuff.......

The 1990's - Panther Creek

It was not even close.

Panther Creek - in the 90's
101 wins, 26 losses
Made playoffs 8 of 10 seasons
8 bi dist trophies
7 regional trophies
5 q-finals trophies
3 semi trophies
2 state trophies, 92 & 93

Gordon - in the 90's
109 wins, 16 losses, 1 tie
Made playoffs 10 of 10 seasons
6 bi dist trophies
6 regional trophies
2 q-finals trophies
2 semi trophies
2 state trophies, 96 & 99

Can see a case to go either way there, but you can't say it's not even close. I'm saying Gordon gets the edge for team of the decade.

 

[Old Bearkat]

Back on the team of the decade stuff.......

The 1990's - Panther Creek

It was not even close.

Panther Creek - in the 90's
101 wins, 26 losses
Made playoffs 8 of 10 seasons
8 bi dist trophies
7 regional trophies
5 q-finals trophies
3 semi trophies
2 state trophies, 92 & 93

Gordon - in the 90's
109 wins, 16 losses, 1 tie
Made playoffs 10 of 10 seasons
6 bi dist trophies
6 regional trophies
2 q-finals trophies
2 semi trophies
2 state trophies, 96 & 99

Can see a case to go either way there, but you can't say it's not even close. I'm saying Gordon gets the edge for team of the decade.

If you add up the points as I did - 1 for 2nd district, 2 for district, 3 for zone, 4 for bi-district, 5 for regional, 6 for QF, 7 for SF, and 8 for state- multiplyingthese by the number of times they took each category, PC comes out ~ 20 points ahead of Gordon.

 

[Old Bearkat]

The South Texas Conference
Asherton - Merged with Carrizo Springs in the 1980's
Barksdale - Merged with Camp Wood in 1956 to form Nueces Canyon CSD
Big Wells - Merged with Carrizo Springs in 1953
Camp Wood - Merged with Barksdale in 1956 to form Nueces Canyon CSD
Caterina - Merged with ?? in ??
Dowdy - Merged With Seguin in 1950
El Jardin - Merged with Brownsville in 1952
Harwood - Merged with Gonzales in the 1950's
Hot Wells - Merged ?? in 1952
Mirando City - Merged with Webb ISD in 2005
Nixon - Merged with Smiley in 1985 to form Nixon-Smiley CSD
Pawnee - Merged with Beeville in 1979
Smiley - Merged with Nixon in 1985 to form Nixon-Smiley CSD
Stuart Place - Merged with Brownsville ISD in 1946
Sutherland Springs - Merged with Floresville in 1954
Wilson Tract - Merged with ?? in 1945

Added Caterina

 

[Shad Kline]

Back on the team of the decade stuff.......

The 1990's - Panther Creek

It was not even close.

Panther Creek - in the 90's
101 wins, 26 losses
Made playoffs 8 of 10 seasons
8 bi dist trophies
7 regional trophies
5 q-finals trophies
3 semi trophies
2 state trophies, 92 & 93

Gordon - in the 90's
109 wins, 16 losses, 1 tie
Made playoffs 10 of 10 seasons
6 bi dist trophies
6 regional trophies
2 q-finals trophies
2 semi trophies
2 state trophies, 96 & 99

Can see a case to go either way there, but you can't say it's not even close. I'm saying Gordon gets the edge for team of the decade.

If you add up the points as I did - 1 for 2nd district, 2 for district, 3 for zone, 4 for bi-district, 5 for regional, 6 for QF, 7 for SF, and 8 for state- multiplyingthese by the number of times they took each category, PC comes out ~ 20 points ahead of Gordon.

Like I said, I can see a case for it. I just disagree with you. Gordon had the better record for the 90's and they made it to the playoffs all 10 years. They both won state twice. Some categories PC wins, some categories Gordon wins. But you said it wasn't even close, I fully disagree with that.

 

[Old Bearkat]

Good. Disagreements are good, as long as they don't get nasty.

 

[Shad Kline]

Good. Disagreements are good, as long as they don't get nasty.

I could get nasty..... but I like you, so I wont.
even though you're wrong.
>

 

[Old Bearkat]

Good. Disagreements are good, as long as they don't get nasty.

I could get nasty..... but I like you, so I wont.
even though you're wrong.
>

 

[Leman Saunders]

All apologies to my buddies at Gordon...Panther Creek was a top team the whole decade start to finish, Gordon was really a top team from 1994-99...

But call it a tie and let the tie breaker be the head to head for the decade...Panther Creek beat Gordon 2 out of 3 times in the 90s...so I got to say still Panther Creek was team of the 1990s....plus they didn't need help from the refs to win a state title...o wait they did...but that was in 2000 so it doesn't count for this discussion...(tongue in cheek of course)

Ya I went there!
(this is where the Gordon Zupruder film is trotted out)

 

[Shad Kline]

 

[Shad Kline]

All apologies to my buddies at Gordon...Panther Creek was a top team the whole decade start to finish, Gordon was really a top team from 1994-99...

But call it a tie and let the tie breaker be the head to head for the decade...Panther Creek beat Gordon 2 out of 3 times in the 90s...so I got to say still Panther Creek was team of the 1990s....plus they didn't need help from the refs to win a state title...o wait they did...but that was in 2000 so it doesn't count for this discussion...(tongue in cheek of course)

Ya I went there!
(this is where the Gordon Zupruder film is trotted out)

How about we call it a tie and let the overall record decide for the decade.
Or we could go with, hmmmmm, playoff appearances? 10 beats 8

"Panther Creek was a top team the whole decade start to finish"
1994? Panther Creek NOT a top team
1991? Panther Creek NOT a top team

Gordon actually had to beat good teams to get out of their district. Panther Creek had Blackwell.

 

[Old Bearkat]

I ran the numbers for the first decade of the new century, and the results are no surprise. Richland Springs is easily the team of the decade. They were over 50 points ahead of 2nd place Strawn.

So far they are also the top team of the 2010's, but Throckmorton is very close behind them.

 

[Old Bearkat]

Saw this in a 10/7/1962 Lubbock Avalanche-Journal.

FROM THE MAIL BAG:
“Glendell Mike of Pettit scored 32 points In Pettit's victory over Southland Sept. 28. Shouldn't this have made him top scorer of the South Plains for last week?
Glenndell scored five touchdowns and two extra points. I believe your story was in error Oct. 2. If this is so, will you please mention Glendell. Glendell has scored 66 points for the season, 14 against Wellman, 20 against Loop and 32 against Southland."
Yours Truly.
Coach John Wayne Hall

The top scorers mentioned in the story refers only to 11-man football players, Glendell and other top scorers from Six-Man and Eight-Man have never been included. Since not all the schools In these two classes of football do not report their games, records are not kept on the scorers. Thanks for the letter.

 

[oldfat&bald]

Saw this in a 10/7/1962 Lubbock Avalanche-Journal.

FROM THE MAIL BAG:
“Glendell Mike of Pettit scored 32 points In Pettit's victory over Southland Sept. 28. Shouldn't this have made him top scorer of the South Plains for last week?
Glenndell scored five touchdowns and two extra points. I believe your story was in error Oct. 2. If this is so, will you please mention Glendell. Glendell has scored 66 points for the season, 14 against Wellman, 20 against Loop and 32 against Southland."
Yours Truly.
Coach John Wayne Hall

The top scorers mentioned in the story refers only to 11-man football players, Glendell and other top scorers from Six-Man and Eight-Man have never been included. Since not all the schools In these two classes of football do not report their games, records are not kept on the scorers. Thanks for the letter.

Same old excuses for fifty years now. If Lubbock didn't have Pete Christy working for KCBD, it would be about the sorriest sports reporting market there is.

 

[Old Bearkat]

Saw this in a 10/7/1962 Lubbock Avalanche-Journal.

FROM THE MAIL BAG:
“Glendell Mike of Pettit scored 32 points In Pettit's victory over Southland Sept. 28. Shouldn't this have made him top scorer of the South Plains for last week?
Glenndell scored five touchdowns and two extra points. I believe your story was in error Oct. 2. If this is so, will you please mention Glendell. Glendell has scored 66 points for the season, 14 against Wellman, 20 against Loop and 32 against Southland."
Yours Truly.
Coach John Wayne Hall

The top scorers mentioned in the story refers only to 11-man football players, Glendell and other top scorers from Six-Man and Eight-Man have never been included. Since not all the schools In these two classes of football do not report their games, records are not kept on the scorers. Thanks for the letter.

Same old excuses for fifty years now. If Lubbock didn't have Pete Christy working for KCBD, it would be about the sorriest sports reporting market there is.

That's why I put this up. It shows they have been using the same old excuses for over 50 years now

 

[Texlonghorn75]

Old Bearkat, Let's revisit the premise that Panther Creek was the team of the 90's. For strength of schedule year in year out, Gordon easily wins because of the yearly feud game with Strawn. Gordon had to beat Strawn and in the 90's they did with regularity, but Strawn has always been more competitive than any of the district opponents that Panther Creek played. The playoffs sometimes present some teams with little more than walkovers, Gordon did not have that luxury, they had to beat Strawn to get to the playoffs. Your point system does not take account who a team ( strength wise ) had to beat to win district. Also the fact that Panther Creek was a recent consolidation of two six man schools kind of boosted their talent level when combined.

 

[freeagent]

The South Texas Conference
Asherton - Merged with Carrizo Springs in the 1980's
Barksdale - Merged with Camp Wood in 1956 to form Nueces Canyon CSD
Big Wells - Merged with Carrizo Springs in 1953
Camp Wood - Merged with Barksdale in 1956 to form Nueces Canyon CSD
Caterina - Merged with Asherton/Carrizo Springs in ??
Dowdy - Merged With Seguin in 1951
El Jardin - Merged with Brownsville in 1952
Harwood - Merged with Gonzales in the 1950's
Hot Wells - Merged ?? in 1952
Mirando City - Merged with Webb ISD in 2005
Nixon - Merged with Smiley in 1985 to form Nixon-Smiley CSD
Pawnee - Stand alone PK-8 district
Smiley - Merged with Nixon in 1985 to form Nixon-Smiley CSD
Stuart Place - Merged with Brownsville ISD in 1946
Sutherland Springs - Merged with Floresville in 1954
Wilson Tract - Merged with ?? in 1945

Added Caterina

Some pics of Caterina: http://www.texasescapes.com/SouthTexasT ... -Texas.htm
I think some of the last pictures here might be the school; I sure remember driving through there a lot of times in the 80s and about 10 years ago when business took me between Del Rio/Uvalde and Laredo. My guess is that the school probably joined up with Asherton, just to the north, and now part of the Carrizo Springs district.

Also, Pawnee might have to come off the ghost school list, based on a phone call I got today. Pawnee is actually a stand-alone PK-8 district, I thought their kids were part of Beeville ISD, but not sure ... could go to Karnes City for high school as well. But the call I got today was that they would like to re-start their junior high football program as a 6 man team.