6 man History

Leman Saunders":1tnjhjx6 said:
Yesterday I looked at the Sweetwater Reporter from 1924 and from 1942...found nothing on anything but Sweetwater HS Football in 1924...found one six-man score for Dowell v Divide and one article about six-man District 7 being formed in the 1942 issues...article said that the district formed and was announced by R. Kidd of the UIL...so I have a new theory on why the official forms on file do not have District 7 as forming in 1942 (as well as others through out the 40s)...cotton season...maybe the official lists of participating schools in the UIL districts was compiled in early september and the districts that had schools that would let out or start later for cotton picking season weren't sure if they would have enough kids or teams to play so they didn't form until after cotton stripping was over and school back in progress...District 7 was formed in early October 1942...I think that fits...I would have to double check the newspapers because they usually announced when schools let out for cotton picking and resumed...but I am pretty sure October was when school resumed

Before WW2, very few, if any cotton farmers stripped their fields. Most cotton harvesting was done by hand, dragging those dang heavy canvas bags behind them as they walked up and down the rows pulling bolls off the plants. BTW....I had an old fashioned Grandpa who drafted all the grandkids to do that after the stripper had gone through the fields to get every last fiber. The increasing mechanization of West Texas farms is what lead to the drastic reduction in the number of small rural high schools in a short period after the war.
 
Old Bearkat":28metwjo said:
Before WW2, very few, if any cotton farmers stripped their fields. Most cotton harvesting was done by hand, dragging those dang heavy canvas bags behind them as they walked up and down the rows pulling bolls off the plants. BTW....I had an old fashioned Grandpa who drafted all the grandkids to do that after the stripper had gone through the fields to get every last fiber. The increasing mechanization of West Texas farms is what lead to the drastic reduction in the number of small rural high schools in a short period after the war.

And all this time I thought OBK was actually older than dirt. Turns out he's not even older than cotton. :-)
 
WV Backer":9uf0vu7v said:
Old Bearkat":9uf0vu7v said:
Before WW2, very few, if any cotton farmers stripped their fields. Most cotton harvesting was done by hand, dragging those dang heavy canvas bags behind them as they walked up and down the rows pulling bolls off the plants. BTW....I had an old fashioned Grandpa who drafted all the grandkids to do that after the stripper had gone through the fields to get every last fiber. The increasing mechanization of West Texas farms is what lead to the drastic reduction in the number of small rural high schools in a short period after the war.

And all this time I thought OBK was actually older than dirt. Turns out he's not even older than cotton. :-)

Nope, I just look like I am........
 
Again, not exactly 6 man history, but I ran across an article in the November 7, 1935 Corsicana Daily Sun about an Illinois high school conference planning to try 8 man football in the 1936 season. Kewaunee was one of the towns.

Eight-Man Football Teams Be Tried Out
KEWANEE, ILL., .Nov. 7.—(AP>—

Eight-man football teams will be tried out in the Little Eight high
school conference next season Both guards and a halfback will
be eliminated from-the team.

Proponents of the plan think an eight man team will reduce
the risk of injury and make the game more dependent upon skill
than strength.

I'll see if I can dig up more on this alternate football experiment. I wonder if Mr. Epler had heard about this experiment when he designed 6 man?
 
OOOPS!

I forgot he started it in 1934. Maybe it was the other way around. I do know some Illinois schools played 6 man until the state consolidated all the small schools in the early 70's.
 
Old Bearkat":1njy2996 said:
OOOPS!

I forgot he started it in 1934. Maybe it was the other way around. I do know some Illinois schools played 6 man until the state consolidated all the small schools in the early 70's.

From reading a biography of my high school coach a year ago, Wisconsin played six-man in the late 30s early 40s.
 
Not much in the Illinoisy papers on the small school football in 1936. I found one article on the Little Eight Conference and they did play 8 man football in 1936. All of those schools were consolidated by the state in the 1970's and 1980's into schools about Texas 2A-3A size.
 
From the Southtown Economist June 2, 1938 (Illinois) on having the local junior colleges going to the 6 man game:


Six-man football—is it feasible or Is it impractical? That's an issue
for conjecture, considering a recent proposal that junior colleges who
have a small turnout for football could employ the new system of
playing the popular sport.

Such a proposal, coming from a downstate junior college which has
a small enrollment, is heralded by proponents as practical on the basis
of several advantages they claim will accrue from such a change in the
playing personnel.

First it is claimed that the finances of a small institution make it difficult
for said school to support a full-sized squad. It is contended
that a six-man team and a few reserves would cut the overhead figure
Another claim is that play between two such teams would give
the spectators more thrills because each individual would be called upon
to do more running, passing and blocking. In regards to play it is
also clamied that football would become a game of strategy rather than
power.

One of the smaller-personnel games was first suggested in 1934 by Kurt
W. Lensen of Stratton, Neb., after it had originated in that state. He
wrote a book on the subject and has since sponsored several schools in
the Universities of Butler and Kansas.

Probably one of its obstacles in achieving popularity is the fact that
rnost boys who attend junior colleges or smaller high schools look forward
to playing on a college eleven. Naturally the college game probably
will include an 11-man aggregation.

Youths are reluctant to learn to play under the six-man style since
such activity would to a certain extent be a handicap when they matriculated
to college and played the Standard game. It's something new,
however, and worth thinking about.
 
The October 11, 1938 Alton (IL) Evening Telegraph had a small blurb about 6 man football being played by 40 schools in Minnesota that year.
 
From The Alton Telegraph again (November 2, 1938)

Coaches Annex Sandlot Idea
* * * * * * * * *
Stephen Epler, Iowa Coach, Enlarges Rules
* * * * * * * * *
Develop 6 -Man Grid Squads


Hey, you sandlotters, have you heard about the progress this
unique idea for high school football, the six man team, Is making?

Time was when you fellows were the only guys in the country who
played a miniature type of the real article but now your territory
has been usurped and coaches think it's a swell Idea—they say it's
a mighty nice feeder for the maturer varsity squads, Improves ball
handling, enables youngsters to develop Into big time players by
furnishing them with the bodily contact so necessary to the sport
and at the same time removes parental objections to a youngster's
participation because It lessens the chances for serious injury.

Good for Little Schools

Then, too, It's an ideal take-off on the gridiron sport because it
hits the spot for schools which haven't enough boys for the 11
man outfits and couldn't afford sponsor money If they did.

Stephen Epler, an Iowa high school coach, 'hard pressed to ply
his trade three years ago for just those reasons, saved his job with
the idea and now It's growing!

The six man play is naturally conducive to wide open tactics and
gives innumerable opportunities for hard, brilliant open field running
plus some superlative blocking and tackling.

It's practically a model of the razzle-dazzle atlaqk used by such
teams as Ohio State and Colgate In the past three years. One difference,
however, is that the six man stuff necessitates frequent
substitutions because its heightened pace soon runs the starters
into a frazzle. About 15 men make up A good squad.

The game's easier to follow, too, because, with only 12 men on the
field instead of the traditional 22, individual performances stand out.
There aren't any guard and tackles on the six man team. There are
three men on the line and three in the backfield and there's the
possibility for any number of of offensive and defensive formations.
The defense usually sticks to a 2-3-1 setup.

The field is 40 yards wide and 80 yards long, 20 yards shorter
than the 11 man field and 40 feet narrower. The offense must make
15 yards in four downs, The back receiving the ball from the center
may not run with it but he may pass it to anyone. If he uses
a reverse play, the second man handling It may run.

Penalties, Too
Infraction of the rules call for a five yard penalty or the loss of
the down. Any player Is eligible to receive a pass, although under
some sets of rules In use the center Is ineligible.

A field goal counts four points and a conversion after touchdown
two If kicked. Made in any other way, It counts only one. This rule
Is to encourage kicking and to remove the possibility of Injury within
the 20 yards line. Touchdowns count the usual six points. Goal
posts are wider and the crossbars are lower to further encourage
kicking.

Teams kick off from the 30 yard line and either an offensive
or defensive man may advance a fumble. Only canvas topped, rubber
soled shoes are allowed the players.

Periods last 10 minutes and the game Is scored in the same manner
as is basketball. The timekeeper and scorer sit on the sidelines and
substitutes report to them before entering the game.

Six man football tends toward high scoring and many teams would
rather run the extra point than attempt to kick it, which indicates
that ground plays are much easier to negotiate than the ones calling
for straight and accurate booting.

, All In All, it might be said that the innovation has its points.
Stephen Epler, glorifying in a sense the age old custom of the sandlotters
who lake to an empty lot and settle their gridiron feuds with
whatever talent is available, may well feel proud
 
From the Alton IL paper again, 11/25/38

CARROLLTON,. NOV. 25.
Carrollton and Staunton High schools tried out the latest
quirk In gridiron methods Thursday afternoon at Carrollton when
they engaged each other before a large Thanksgiving Day throng
in "six man" football.

When they had bewildered the crowd with a wild exhibition of
broken field running and breathless maneuvering up and down
the 80-yard length of the field, Staunton was pronounced the winner
by a 37-20 count. The game, essentially a wide-open, daring
brand of play especially adapted to broken field tactics and spectacular
scores, was played swiftly and pleased the spectators with
numerous examples of tricky ball handling.

Herdeck scored three touchdowns for Staunton on runs after
lateral passes. Banishela scored twice, once after a forward pass
and once after blocking a kick and recovering the ball over the
goal line. Alexander made three drop kicks between the goal posts
for a total of six points. Manning caught one pass over the goal line
for an extra point.

Burruss of Carrollton ran a punt back 72 yards for a score.
Coates tallied once on an end run. Witt took a forward pass from
Burruss for one score. Short and Daum each tallied an extra point
on passes.

Carrollton jumped off to a 7-6 lead in the first quarter but could
not hold it They were leading by 14-13 at the half but Staunton
rallied to gain an eight-point lead they never relinquished.
 
Now in of all places to find this, The Alton (IL) Evening Telegraph on Sept. 13, 1939 had a quick blurb on the formation of a 6 man team in Agua Dulce, TX high school who had a woman coach. That's another one Leman or I will have to look further into, as the previous female 6 man coach I knew of was the one in Sagerton during WW2.
 
An article in the 9/29/1939 Chicago Daily Herald talked about 6 man. The local high school sports conference had considered 6 man that summer, but 3 11 man schools nixed the idea. Several schools were considering going 6 man intramural and forcing another vote the next year.

It did list the number of 6 man football schools around the nation in 1938 at over 2000 with the top 3 states as follows:

Texas - 163
Minnesota - 152
Wisconsin - 129
 
From the 10/13/1939 Chicago Daily Herald:

Bensenville School Adopts 6-Man Football
First In Chicago Area To Employ New Game


Bensenville will open a three game schedule, of six man football
contests next Friday afternoon, October 20, when the Harris private
high school of Chicago comes to the Bisons' gridiron.

W. A. Johnson, athletic director, has also announced that Bensejiville
has home games with Grant of Fox Lake Wednesday, October
25, and with Shabbona on Saturday, October 28.

The Saturday game will start at 2 p. m. and the week day engagements
at 3 p. m.

Coach Kirby has had as many as 28 Bensenville boys drilling the
past month in preparation for the staging of the first interscholastic
six man. grid game in the Chicago area.

No doubt many coaches and players from nearby suburban schools
will be on hand to see the Bensenville experiment with the new
sport which has been spreading like wild fire among the small high
schools of the central and western states.
 
An article in the Murphysboro Daily Independent on October 18, 1939 about the Southern Illinois Normal University (now Southern Illinois University) homecoming had a line about a 6 man game to be played as part of the festivities between Seser and Valjer High Schools as a demonstration for teachers considering going to coach sports at small schools.
 
From the Chicago Daily Herald 10/27/1939 on the first Chicago area 6 man game:

Nine Boys Score
A total of nine boys had a part in Bensenville's scoring in their
opening six man football game last Friday with Jack Thomas a shifty,
hard running halfback accounting for 20 of the 60 compiled by the
Bisons.

Takes Speed and Ball Handling

Weight is a handicap in the six man game according to our observers.
Lighter, faster Bensenville boys had it all over their
heavier opponents. Also there's much more action than in the 11
man game. In the first place the number of plays is greatly increased
due to loss time between plays. It is more like the almost
continuous action of basketball game and there is at least five times as great
a chance of any given play resulting in a score. However; to one
who has been used to the 11 man game, it may seem queer to see so
few boys on the field. It is not intended to be a substitute for
11 man football, but rather the next best thing for a school that could
not otherwise enjoy the advantages of a contact type of sport.
 
Bensenville was a little large in enrollment for the 6 man game, as they had 290 kids in the high school. A line in an article in the January 12, 1940 had the Bensenville coach stating they would play 6 man in 1940 also.
 
Old Bearkat":1b5am87x said:
Bensenville was a little large in enrollment for the 6 man game, as they had 290 kids in the high school. A line in an article in the January 12, 1940 had the Bensenville coach stating they would play 6 man in 1940 also.

And according to an article in the 10/4/1940 Chicago Daily Herald, they did.
 
From the 10/26/1940 Alton (IL) Daily Telegraph:
Count Ike Rhine of Bethalto among the latest converts to six
man football as a boon to the nations little schools.

Ike was obtained to referee a game of it at Venice the other
night and came back bubbling over with praise for it.
"It's just the thing for the little school which can't supply the material
for a full 11 man team plus reserves and necessary equipment,"
he says, "and yet it offers the kids enough of the real thing
to make them go for it big.

"It is played exactly like the original 11 man game except that
only six men are on a team and any one is eligible to receive a
pass."

"There is tackling and blocking and all the chance for the
employment of the strategy In plays which makes the 11 man
game the greatest sport in the business to red blooded
kids."

Rhine explains that in six man football there Is no such thing as
a line plunge. The rules of the game require that the man receiving
the ball from center must pass it to another before a play is
considered underway.

Thus, the first man handling the ball can do nothing with it but
pass it to a second and he must pass it, not hand it to him. The
ball must be in the air by itself at some time in transit from one
to the other.

This tends to give the defense time to get organized and so keeps
the game from being too wide open.

It is wide open enough as it is but Rhine points out that the
final score in the Venice engagement which he refereed was only
13 to 6. As the boys become familiar with the new game,
scores will rise, of course.

Under the rules, If one team Under the rules, If one team
compiles 45 points by the second half the game will be
stopped and the team with the 45 awarded the victory automatically.
 
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