rainjacktx
Six-man fan
Scoring Defense is a little misleading. Valley has played subs and JV players in a good portion of 4 of their six games.
SimplyPut":1rqenu66 said:As opposed to the others leaving their starting 6 defenders on field from first buzzer to final buzzer? Might any of these other schools rotate subs? 2 way street there rainjack, sorry. As far as playing JV players on a Friday night, are you guys losing that many JV games, and having to suit them up on Friday, or do you have some kids playing Thursday and Friday? I was just thinking it must be one of the two.
6mansam":22glpzzp said:Valley is good. Rankin and Ira are better. Valley's top 12 is probably better than anyone else's, but you only put 6 out there at a time. Both Ira and Rankin's Top 6 are better.
CowboyP":3s8iducs said:If you think valley is the only team that has played subs in several games, you are fooling yourself. Most teams play subs in pre-district games.
rainjacktx":2i22e6jf said:CowboyP":2i22e6jf said:If you think valley is the only team that has played subs in several games, you are fooling yourself. Most teams play subs in pre-district games.
You're missing my point. The scoring defense stat is a joke if you are trying to determine the best defense out of 4-5 teams that are fairly closely ranked. If they are all pretty good, everyone plays subs, and the scores allowed in a 45-point drubbing are meaningless.
ryry":28ddvami said:Slow down,dont get ahead of youselves, this is way too close to the ACHS thread
ryry":2e1sa1fe said:Slow down,dont get ahead of youselves, this is way too close to the ACHS thread
SimplyPut":2qxn1uqz said:rainjacktx":2qxn1uqz said:CowboyP":2qxn1uqz said:If you think valley is the only team that has played subs in several games, you are fooling yourself. Most teams play subs in pre-district games.
You're missing my point. The scoring defense stat is a joke if you are trying to determine the best defense out of 4-5 teams that are fairly closely ranked. If they are all pretty good, everyone plays subs, and the scores allowed in a 45-point drubbing are meaningless.
You missed the point. The defensive stats of course can't determine the best defense out of those used in the comparison. That was the point. It was a response to Donkgrind saying Div 1 result would be determined by either Throcks run defense getting better or Valley's passing defense getting better, and your guarantee that Valley will represent the west. I only meant to show there are other defenses that are comparable at this point. You have since answered the question in another thread however. Just bragging, I now understand you don't really believe it.
ryry":1golrung said:Chill out Rain. Im just shaking things up a bit, stirring the pot. Yes Valley has a cake walk into post season, everyone knows that, but dont get ahead of yourself Valley probably wont play another full game until post season, so I would work a little on conditioning as well, hope they dont choke when they have to play 4 quarters or they have to finally play a team like Rankin or Ira that can actually run the ball down a teams throat because Valley as yet to see or defend a team that can do so and will not until post season. So the defense stats on the run are pretty much void thus far,Good luck to Valley though I know they are the team to beat for sure no doubts from me
Mustangs":10s9ucv5 said:Ira has the toughest road along with bc or sands. I've seen valley play there is very little chance they can beat any of the five teams. Enjoy your easy road to semis. Good luck to the #25 kid from sands hope for a speedy recovery
rainjacktx":38zgaj1c said:SimplyPut":38zgaj1c said:rainjacktx":38zgaj1c said:CowboyP":38zgaj1c said:If you think valley is the only team that has played subs in several games, you are fooling yourself. Most teams play subs in pre-district games.
You're missing my point. The scoring defense stat is a joke if you are trying to determine the best defense out of 4-5 teams that are fairly closely ranked. If they are all pretty good, everyone plays subs, and the scores allowed in a 45-point drubbing are meaningless.
You missed the point. The defensive stats of course can't determine the best defense out of those used in the comparison. That was the point. It was a response to Donkgrind saying Div 1 result would be determined by either Throcks run defense getting better or Valley's passing defense getting better, and your guarantee that Valley will represent the west. I only meant to show there are other defenses that are comparable at this point. You have since answered the question in another thread however. Just bragging, I now understand you don't really believe it.
You never made a point that I know of. How can I miss a point that was never made? I was replying to what Cowboy said. Nothing more. Nothing less. I said there was no real way to compare the defensive stats, then you say you were just using them as a comparison. Do what?
When you hang 400 yards rushing on the then #2 team in the state, and you allow 400 passing in the same 3 point game - I would say the statement about the winner of the next Throck-Valley matchup needing to improve their respective defensive weaknesses is quite accurate.
Oh I believe it, Sister. You should too. I usually don't brag on teams. But when I do - I'm usually right. I picked MC's state championship before district. I picked Silverton's trip to the semi's before the season started. I picked MC's latest trip to the semi's during district. I'm 3-0 over the last 4 years. I'll be 4-0 this December.
SimplyPut":3frd40fg said:Sister, ok, I will take your weak name calling, not much choice here. The point was that Valley is right in the mix as one of the top teams, some allowing less points, some more. But they certainly don't have a bye straight to the finals. As for your prediction. Good Luck to you. I say Valley will not be in the finals.