Official Assaulted On The Field

Lighten up, its not the end of the world...well that depends on who you ask I suppose. I for one enjoy good humor at anything and anyone's expense. I laugh everytime I walk by a mirror at Wal-mart. The alternative is to gross out and throw up in my mouth. About the only thing I'm reverent about is the good Lord and mothers...most mothers...okay some mothers. Some moms earn a good laugh, especially the Walkie-Talkies (walk low to the ground and talk all over town). What else can you do? We cant shoot 'em and a good CPS whoopin is not in vogue. I don't believe I can whoop mine anyway. Her H.S. powerlifting still serves her well. And how many women, or men for that matter, can swing a paddle fourteen hundred times in one calendar school year and not get charges filed on them. And that was used only after strike three. The kids in San Augustine nicknamed her Killa. Personally, I am determined not to go beyond strike two.
The closest I have ever come to being killed was the night I was doing machine guns in the living room. It was close to midnight and I thought I was the only one still awake. Well she came around the corner as fast as Usain Bolt in the 200 and ran right smack into my 45 pound freeweight bar. The end of that bar hit her right in the nose bridge on the back stroke, she dropped like a raggedy ann doll. You know the kind that has no wires or bones, just limp. As I leaned down to help her up I couldn't help but utter a inadvertent giggle at the sight of her eyes blowing up like balloons. Not joking! Her eyes exploded within 30 seconds. That giggle must have been louder than I thought, she looked up thru slanted lids and let out a scream I have never heard in my life. My life flashed in front of my eyes and I must have at that moment been the fastest fat man in unrecorded history. Thank heaven for Motel 6.
 
CowboyP":2rqf9o87 said:
SavoyFan":2rqf9o87 said:
This is funny! I especially like the part about having to cut down on Fox News for awhile in 2012! Lol
My two cents on this: People have turned into such panseys! The ref wasn't hurt. He may have even deserved it! Suspend the kids from school for 3 days and make them miss a couple of games and move on!
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Comments like this are assanine. Regardless of what the official did, he did not deserve this. The players should be banned from organized sports for life, and they should be charged with aggravated assault.
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Cmon dude. Your acting like they beat him with a crow bar and a sock full of nickels out in the parking lot after the game or something! Let's put this in context. Was it bad sportsman like and dirty? Ya Was it also kinda funny? Yes Should they be punished? Yes But make the punishment fit the crime. And move on.
 
As to the punishment fitting the crime... It was (premeditated) assault. If they were adult's I believe that's a felony, 2-10? I think I've read before a fist has been considered a weapon. I'm sure you can find more than one lawyer who would consider a helmet a weapon. Google it yourself but I think assault with a deadly weapon is a second degree felony, 2-20. The lawyer's won't think it's funny, they'll see $$$.
The coach who said "he need's to pay" should have to pay himself. Lifetime banishment from the education field?
My idea of funny would be putting them in what our coaches used to call a machine gun drill until they couldn't get up. Let em' recuperate and do it again.
 
It is being reported that another official was hit by a player in San Antonio this afternoon. St. Anthony player vs. Austin Hyde Park
 
No way... I really hate to hear that.

If any coach has not addressed this with his team by now, that is on them.

UIL/NCAA will come out with a rule, you better believe it.
 
BE":3n2nhq1r said:
More rules...just what we need. ):
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More rules in a game ruled by rules. I can tell you with a fairly high degree of confidence that most of the rule changes occur as a result of coaches bastardizing the existing ones. I guess you fancy yourself as a coach, right BE? It's the snotty-nosed, whiney, "their team is holding on every play", "you didn't get a number? If you don't have a number, you can't have a foul" type of coaching douchebaggery that leads to more rules.

I'm more than confident that, given a chance, you will find a way to skirt whatever new rules may or may not roll down the UIL/NCAA pike. I mean unless you are willing to reverse an entire coaching career of being the loud-mouthed snot-nosed brat on your sideline.
 
51eleven":2nfuitc1 said:
granger":2nfuitc1 said:
It is being reported that another official was hit by a player in San Antonio this afternoon. St. Anthony player vs. Austin Hyde Park
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Hopefully, this one was accidental contact?
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Nope. Picture on the website story. But this time, his teammates surrounded him and ended the problem. And Monday, TAPPS will throw the book at him. At least a one-game suspension, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more, either by the school or by TAPPS. Plus I would not be surprised if St. Anthony got some sort of public probation. (St. Anthony is run by the University of the Incarnate Word, hence the reference to the UIW public relations office.)

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/high ... 501049.php


The player, St. Anthony senior Zeke Cardenas, was immediately restrained by his teammates after he raised his arms up and made contact with an official during the third quarter of Saturday's game at St. Anthony. He was ejected after the event.

The incident comes eight days after two Jay players tackled and speared an official at the end of a contest at Marble Falls. Video of the incident spread internationally and was discussed nationally before Friday's game against Del Rio, which drew interest from national media outlets.

Hyde Park coach Dean Campbell, who is in his sixth year at the Austin private school, was not at the game after he was recovering from a heart attack following last week's game last Friday.

"Whatever happened was unfortunate, especially with whatever happened last week in Marble Falls," Campbell said. "I spoke with the coaches after the game and I didn't really ask them what all they saw."

On the play, Cardenas fielded a low snap during a drive that started with 7:14 left in the third quarter. Cardenas retrieved the ball behind him ran to his left and was sacked on the play.

As Cardenas came to his feet, video appears to show the quarterback shoving a Hyde Park player, which caused one official to throw a penalty flag. Cardenas originally walked before an official approached him.

As the two came closer, the official threw another penalty before Cardenas shoved him. Members of the St. Anthony team immediately restrained Cardenas. The game was broadcasted on kmacsports.com.

"After everything's that's gone on in the news and all over, No. 80 just hit the referee and he is going to be escorted out of here right now," the announcer said. "Holy Toledo, folks."

Earlier in the broadcast, the announcers said both teams were having a hard time getting a play off without a flag.

St. Anthony coach Kevin Smisek directed all questions to the UIW communications office, which could not be reached for comment. The high school is managed by the university.

The game continued after the incident. Austin Hyde Park won 21-0.
 
SavoyFan":dtp2fwpo said:
CowboyP":dtp2fwpo said:
SavoyFan":dtp2fwpo said:
This is funny! I especially like the part about having to cut down on Fox News for awhile in 2012! Lol
My two cents on this: People have turned into such panseys! The ref wasn't hurt. He may have even deserved it! Suspend the kids from school for 3 days and make them miss a couple of games and move on!
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Comments like this are assanine. Regardless of what the official did, he did not deserve this. The players should be banned from organized sports for life, and they should be charged with aggravated assault.
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Cmon dude. Your acting like they beat him with a crow bar and a sock full of nickels out in the parking lot after the game or something! Let's put this in context. Was it bad sportsman like and dirty? Ya Was it also kinda funny? Yes Should they be punished? Yes But make the punishment fit the crime. And move on.
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You get on a field and let a couple of players blindside you the same way, then come back and tell me it wasn't bad or that its "kind of funny".
Kids getting a slap on the wrist for things is part of the problem with today's society. They have no fear of consequences.
 
You are right, kids have no consequences these days. In 1989, I mouthed back to a ref in a hockey game and got thrown out... I didn't swear at him but I did make reference to his particularly thick glasses. That was all it took to get tossed. I got changed, came out of the locker room and right at the door was my Irish immigrant father just waiting for me. I got a good walloping and learned my lesson.

A few days later at the next game, I apologized to my coaches, my teammates, and eventually the ref once I saw him again. Further, I left the refs alone for the rest of my career.

Sounds like these kids could have used an Irish immigrant father in their lives...
 
Unfortunately many of our kids are not taught the meaning of honor and good behavior, but by god they know math and computer skills.

The problem with many of these kids is the lack of respect for authority at home. Between beer drinking, pot smoking and porno the quality of character in many homes has dropped as low as a cesspool sp?. Example: After one of my kids dropped two passes on consecutive plays his mother laughingly said after the game all her son needed was a 12 pack of beer and he would be fine. He was a freshman. Apparently the lessons learned through two alcohol related dead kids and one lost to sports for an entire year were forgotten. But make no mistake, these people understand the consequences of their kids' actions, they simply do not care. Or it's ignorance. After all the earlier tribulations the later is doubtful.

Who knows. And psycho-analyzing serves no real purpose. Point is kids do stupid things and much of it comes from values they have picked up from adults somewhere. However, we cannot throw them away without offering a way to redemption. I choose to treat them the way I want to be treated. And none of us bastards are perfect.
 
From the TAPPS website this morning:

The Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools (TAPPS) continues our mission of building leadership, fellowship, fair play and sportsmanship of students enrolled in the organization’s member schools in the areas of academics, athletics and fine arts by providing wholesome competition for young men and women. This past weekend an incident occurred in a football game between two member schools. The TAPPS investigation of the incident began Sunday morning and continues in preparation for a meeting of the Executive Board to fully review the facts of the situation.

As the investigation continues, our organization reaffirms its commitment to our member schools competing with honor on the field of play.
 
CowboyP":2f9oeiod said:
Kids getting a slap on the wrist for things is part of the problem with today's society. They have no fear of consequences.
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For certain segments of today's society. Espouse the "wrong" politics, and you can expect to get the full force of the law on your butt, or simply be a white male on a college campus anf get a woman mad at you she can just accuse you of rape and the world collapses on you.
 
BE":3rsvzf71 said:
Unfortunately many of our kids are not taught the meaning of honor and good behavior, but by god they know math and computer skills.

The problem with many of these kids is the lack of respect for authority at home. Between beer drinking, pot smoking and porno the quality of character in many homes has dropped as low as a cesspool sp?. Example: After one of my kids dropped two passes on consecutive plays his mother laughingly said after the game all her son needed was a 12 pack of beer and he would be fine. He was a freshman. Apparently the lessons learned through two alcohol related dead kids and one lost to sports for an entire year were forgotten. But make no mistake, these people understand the consequences of their kids' actions, they simply do not care. Or it's ignorance. After all the earlier tribulations the later is doubtful.

Who knows. And psycho-analyzing serves no real purpose. Point is kids do stupid things and much of it comes from values they have picked up from adults somewhere. However, we cannot throw them away without offering a way to redemption. I choose to treat them the way I want to be treated. And none of us bastards are perfect.
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I believe if you will check your scripture, this is pretty much the definition of a fool.
 
BE":145wqyp8 said:
Unfortunately many of our kids are not taught the meaning of honor and good behavior, but by god they know math and computer skills.
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This right here...is my job as a coach. From teaching "the meaning of honor and good behavior" to teaching the "math and computer skills."

All of it....my job. Should they be getting some of this at home? Absolutely. Are they? No, not always. Will they learn it from me? I hope so, if they don't learn it from me, it's not because I'm not trying.
 
I appreciate your efforts as an educator, sir, and as one myself realize the challenges involved. My statement about math and computer skills infer the need for more than just a knowledge of numbers and technology. To echo your acclimation... Kids need lessons in right and wrong and that is neglected, or at least unpopular in many areas around our country. How else do you explain the things we are seeing.

Five of my chilluns could design power points by the fifth grade (the other three are 3rd grade and under). And the two to three hours of homework we are doing four nights a week should reap the same math result, eventually. No doubt they are all blessed with good educational opportunities. They need more.

Thanks to my wife's strong Christian influence they are subjected to bible values and are developing spiritual strength and knowledge as well. Sometimes those two influences clash. Its a struggle isn't it.

Last word. I believe faith and witnessing are two of the major reasons RS is successful in football year to year. Burkhart has always acknowledged Christ throughout his football program. And we all know what scripture says about someone who testifies the Gospel to man...blessings....
 
Johnny South":2exbo84q said:
BE":2exbo84q said:
Unfortunately many of our kids are not taught the meaning of honor and good behavior, but by god they know math and computer skills.

The problem with many of these kids is the lack of respect for authority at home. Between beer drinking, pot smoking and porno the quality of character in many homes has dropped as low as a cesspool sp?. Example: After one of my kids dropped two passes on consecutive plays his mother laughingly said after the game all her son needed was a 12 pack of beer and he would be fine. He was a freshman. Apparently the lessons learned through two alcohol related dead kids and one lost to sports for an entire year were forgotten. But make no mistake, these people understand the consequences of their kids' actions, they simply do not care. Or it's ignorance. After all the earlier tribulations the later is doubtful.

Who knows. And psycho-analyzing serves no real purpose. Point is kids do stupid things and much of it comes from values they have picked up from adults somewhere. However, we cannot throw them away without offering a way to redemption. I choose to treat them the way I want to be treated. And none of us bastards are perfect.
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I believe if you will check your scripture, this is pretty much the definition of a fool.
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Somehow I missed your comment Johnny until now. If referring to the mom it doesn't apply. She is a wonderful parent and a pillar of the community, and that is why its so shocking.

If your referring to me, no argument here...I have long given witness to the inclination that I was the only loser in our family.
 
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