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rainjacktx
Six-man fan
And a team that beat tu head to head will not be playing in the game either.
coach_jshelton
Six-man fan
the only way to stop it all is economics - everyone stop patronizing the NCAA marketing machine & force their hand to do something else. It'll never happen. I love NCAA football - until the end of the regular season, then it becomes a joke.
rainjacktx
Six-man fan
markf":2oq6utw7 said:
Is that the same team who beat tu? Who OWNED them for all but about a minute and a half?
You have no valid complaint. You are not as popular as the Sooners. Get over it. It's all about the most popular.
freeagent
Six-man pro
tepryde":2sdxllve said:
Brother Robert and friends ... I'll agree the BCS is a mess ... but let's face it. Texas goes to sleep for 90 something seconds in Lubbock and their fate falls out of their hands. Tech turns into the Manila Folders at Oklahome and their fate falls out of their hands.
For better or for worse, polls always reward winning late in the season.
I despise Oklahoma football like the plague, but they did what they had to after losing to Texas.
And yes, Brother Robert, if Florida wins, I agree the national title should be Texas vs. Oklahoma (although USC wants to say they should have a shot). I heard a guy on ESPN today saying that Florida should consider the SEC championship as the BCS semifinals.
rainjacktx
Six-man fan
39 - 33 is just as valid.
Had you done what you needed to do, there would not be any discussion. Had Tech done the same thing, there would be no discussion either.
You are not as popular as tu-norman. It is a bitter pill, but that's the truth. Your patsy non-conference schedule probably has something to do with it.
But I agree 100% - there needs to be a real playoff system. A championship needs to be settled on the field, not with the vote of a sportswriter.
Had you done what you needed to do, there would not be any discussion. Had Tech done the same thing, there would be no discussion either.
You are not as popular as tu-norman. It is a bitter pill, but that's the truth. Your patsy non-conference schedule probably has something to do with it.
But I agree 100% - there needs to be a real playoff system. A championship needs to be settled on the field, not with the vote of a sportswriter.
The Assassin
11-man fan
Someone needs to question the Big 12 schematic for three-way tie situations. In other conferences like the SEC they take the two highest ranked teams and use the head to head to break the tie. Texas lost on the road in the final seconds of the game after going thorugh a gauntlet of a schedule. Oklahoma lost to Texas. No team should be ranked above a team that beat them when they have the same record. Can you tell me that Oklahoma is a better team top to bottom than Texas? Look at how many points and yards the Sooners give up compared to Texas. They already rob us of our HS talent, now they take our place in the Big 12 Title game, GO MISSOU!
Their are still analysts saying that there is a possibility that a one-loss SEC champion in Florida would not gain enough to jump Texas. A UT not TU -vs- UT-Norman rematch would be cool. But I don't think it will happen. Could you imagine how mad the state of FLorida would be if that did happen?
Their are still analysts saying that there is a possibility that a one-loss SEC champion in Florida would not gain enough to jump Texas. A UT not TU -vs- UT-Norman rematch would be cool. But I don't think it will happen. Could you imagine how mad the state of FLorida would be if that did happen?
Old Bearkat
Six-man expert
A Division 1 playoff could easily be implemented within the existing bowl game structure. But first, all of the major independent schools, specifically Notre Dumb, Army, and Navy, will have to join a conference. There will be no room for independents. A new conference could be made to include Army, Navy, Notre Dame, and a few others.
Old Bearkat
Six-man expert
rainjacktx":1yug3vil said:
A TT fan should be the last one to accuse any one else of a patsy non-conference schedule........
I am a member of a message board that deals with this topic. Several of the guys involved have now determined that it was likely the Kansas upset of Missouri and Nebraska win over Colorado that were enough to send OU further ahead over Texas a little behind.
Things have to go your way to win a national championship and none of them seemed to go for UT. If a freshman (Blake Gideon) doesn't drop the Int in Lubbock a few weeks ago, if Nebraska doesn't hit a 57-yard fg to beat Colorado, if a kid from Austin doesn't complete a fourth down 26-yard TD in the last 30 seconds to beat Missouri.... it is a crazy world.
Also don't forget. All three teams that won this weekend to keep UT out of the Big XII title game (Tech, Nebraska and Kansas) are all coached by ex-OU assistants... Leach, Pelini and Mangino. Now that's ironic.
Hey, it stinks, but it is what it is.
Things have to go your way to win a national championship and none of them seemed to go for UT. If a freshman (Blake Gideon) doesn't drop the Int in Lubbock a few weeks ago, if Nebraska doesn't hit a 57-yard fg to beat Colorado, if a kid from Austin doesn't complete a fourth down 26-yard TD in the last 30 seconds to beat Missouri.... it is a crazy world.
Also don't forget. All three teams that won this weekend to keep UT out of the Big XII title game (Tech, Nebraska and Kansas) are all coached by ex-OU assistants... Leach, Pelini and Mangino. Now that's ironic.
Hey, it stinks, but it is what it is.
BTW, rainjack, UT was actually ahead by more in the polls...
Also, I love Leach suggesting they should base it on graduation rate after the Baylor game....
Also, I love Leach suggesting they should base it on graduation rate after the Baylor game....
Knowmystuff
11-man fan
I would say Texas got screwed, their loss was better than OU's (if you can consider a loss good), had beat OU head to head, and both were ahead of Tech in the BCS which eliminates Tech from this mess (and I am a Tech fan). OU's drumming of Tech is what put them ahead of Texas.
Let's not forget Tech gets screwed out of a BCS bowl game as well.
I think an 8 team playoff would be the best: Use the BCS to seed them 1-8; match up 1 plays 8 and so on. All 4 games would be the 4 BCS bowl games, and the final championship would be the BCS championship.
Granger are you sure your use of the word ironic is correct??? I believe the word happenstance is what you are looking for, I don't think it is true irony (irony is one of the most misused words in the English language) but I might be wrong. Hate to be a grammar snob.
O and by the way you can't just win all your games (true some teams can) tell that to Utah, Boise State, Ball State, Tulane in '98 and so on.
Let's not forget Tech gets screwed out of a BCS bowl game as well.
I think an 8 team playoff would be the best: Use the BCS to seed them 1-8; match up 1 plays 8 and so on. All 4 games would be the 4 BCS bowl games, and the final championship would be the BCS championship.
Granger are you sure your use of the word ironic is correct??? I believe the word happenstance is what you are looking for, I don't think it is true irony (irony is one of the most misused words in the English language) but I might be wrong. Hate to be a grammar snob.
O and by the way you can't just win all your games (true some teams can) tell that to Utah, Boise State, Ball State, Tulane in '98 and so on.
Even though the BCS will not allow it. If Florida beats Alabama, and they should.. It should be UT vs. OU for the title. But like I said this awesome computer rankings that the Head whigs have in NCAAF will not allow it. Instead they are going to allow Florida to jump Texas. Another team that has not played near the amount of the Longhorn schedule. :?
I really think that there is no way that there will be a UT/ut-norman rematch for the championship. No way the voters will allow that to happen. ut-norman will win Saturday and they will play Bama or Florida (I'm not counting the Tide out like a lot are) for the National Championship. I hope that UT would play the other team but they might hook up with USC. If anybody knows of flaws in those predictions please let me know. If UT and ut-norman both win their bowl games then UT gets to brag that they beat the National Champion 45-35. UT is a consensus #1 next year. Leach and tech are on the outside looking in. But they will probablly win their bowl game which could be the Holiday Bowl (Again if you know something I don't tell me). Heisman goes to Bradford with McCoy, Harrell, and Tebow looking on. McCoy wins the Davey O'brien award and may still win the Heisman because a lot of voters push for him after the BCS mess.
