Water Valley vs Newcastle

1st & 15

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Just curious if these two teams have ever met before. I don't remember Water Valley ever playing them but my memory seems to fail me more often than not.
Listening to the 1A podcast last night one of the host seems to think this will be a heck of a game. I personally don't think it will last past the half but.... I've been wrong before. WV by 45
 
Just curious if these two teams have ever met before. I don't remember Water Valley ever playing them but my memory seems to fail me more often than not.
Just so you know, you can always check out https://sixmanfootball.com/games/ and use the filters to look at things like that dating back to 1994. I've still got a lot of work to do on that page, but it works just fine. It does require a primary team to be included in order to work, though.
 
According to the Lone Star Football Network they have never met before. Don't know much about 'em so I'm not going to make any predictions, except to say I'm looking for a WV win.
They have a good program and good tradition. Almost always very competitive. Don’t think they get past this week but still winning seasons and playoff births is very good.
 
I think Water Valley vs. Newcastle is one of the more intriguing matchups this playoff, mainly because it gives us a real barometer for what Water Valley actually is and what they might be capable of down the stretch. Up to this point, the schedule has given us hints, but not a true defining moment. This game has a chance to be exactly that.

If you want a comparison point to see if Water Valley is going to be an elite D1 team with the ability to push the D1 east representative then the Jayton matchup with Newcastle is the best lens we can use at the moment. Jayton is different than your typical high school roster. They’ve got three guys who wouldn’t just be considered top-tier six-man athletes, they’re elite athletes period, across multiple sports, with the résumé to prove it. When you evaluate Newcastle’s showing in that game, you have to look at it through the lens that they weren’t just playing a good team… they were playing elite, multi-sport, grand-stage athletes. And even in that setting, Newcastle showed what most of us already suspected from their scrimmages and early performances: they’re a legitimately a good football team.

So naturally going into the Jayton vs Newcastle match up. On paper looks to be a good match up. But after the 1st Q the level of football and players just was too much and Jayton showed it’s dominance, which many would say is a notch below where the Longhorns might be.

But here’s the key Water Valley question, are they a good football team, or a good team with some elite great players? That’s where the Water Valley comparison gets interesting.

Water Valley hasn’t faced a Jayton-level athletes yet. Their schedule hasn’t shown a superstar matchup that forces us to say “Yep, they can run with state-level speed and skill.” But they have handled teams with strong individual pieces. Robert Lee is a perfect example: one truly exceptional player surrounded by solid players, and Water Valley took care of business with ease. You can’t dismiss that result, but looking at the Newcastle score vs Jayton, Newcastle falls into the same category as Rankin (really good team, just no individual elite level players) but WV mercy ruled them. That puts Rankin, BC, Whiteface, GC, Newcastle, Ira, etc all in the same category of really good football teams but no elite singularly players. But Robert Lee does. So looking at the Water Valley game, WV controled the narrative the entire game. Showing that they at least have a good football team with at least more than one elite football player to dominate in the manner that they did.

So this matchup becomes another measuring stick. If the talk around Water Valley is accurate — that they’ve got the overall athleticism and team speed that can at least be in the same ZIP code as Jayton, and Gordon, then this is the week they need to prove it. Because if they are on that level, then they’re not just in the conversation for a playoff run… they’re in the conversation for maybe even pushing into a battle with the Longhorns themselves.

For Water Valley, this has to be a statement game. A convincing win would validate everything being said about their potential ceiling. It would tell us they’re not just a “good team with some good players,” but a true contender capable of punching with the best at the end. I’m pretty convinced that WV will mercy rule all the way to State Championship where for the first time this season both teams will see really good football team with more than one elite level athlete.

But if Newcastle is able to move the ball consistently, put up multiple scores, or keep it tight into the late third or fourth quarter, then the picture becomes clearer to how December ends.

Personally, I’d love to see WV dethrone the Longhorns ..only fair since they took away our 3-peat.

Prediction:
WV-60
Newcastle-15
3 minutes into third Q
 
I think Water Valley vs. Newcastle is one of the more intriguing matchups this playoff, mainly because it gives us a real barometer for what Water Valley actually is and what they might be capable of down the stretch. Up to this point, the schedule has given us hints, but not a true defining moment. This game has a chance to be exactly that.

If you want a comparison point to see if Water Valley is going to be an elite D1 team with the ability to push the D1 east representative then the Jayton matchup with Newcastle is the best lens we can use at the moment. Jayton is different than your typical high school roster. They’ve got three guys who wouldn’t just be considered top-tier six-man athletes, they’re elite athletes period, across multiple sports, with the résumé to prove it. When you evaluate Newcastle’s showing in that game, you have to look at it through the lens that they weren’t just playing a good team… they were playing elite, multi-sport, grand-stage athletes. And even in that setting, Newcastle showed what most of us already suspected from their scrimmages and early performances: they’re a legitimately a good football team.

So naturally going into the Jayton vs Newcastle match up. On paper looks to be a good match up. But after the 1st Q the level of football and players just was too much and Jayton showed it’s dominance, which many would say is a notch below where the Longhorns might be.

But here’s the key Water Valley question, are they a good football team, or a good team with some elite great players? That’s where the Water Valley comparison gets interesting.

Water Valley hasn’t faced a Jayton-level athletes yet. Their schedule hasn’t shown a superstar matchup that forces us to say “Yep, they can run with state-level speed and skill.” But they have handled teams with strong individual pieces. Robert Lee is a perfect example: one truly exceptional player surrounded by solid players, and Water Valley took care of business with ease. You can’t dismiss that result, but looking at the Newcastle score vs Jayton, Newcastle falls into the same category as Rankin (really good team, just no individual elite level players) but WV mercy ruled them. That puts Rankin, BC, Whiteface, GC, Newcastle, Ira, etc all in the same category of really good football teams but no elite singularly players. But Robert Lee does. So looking at the Water Valley game, WV controled the narrative the entire game. Showing that they at least have a good football team with at least more than one elite football player to dominate in the manner that they did.

So this matchup becomes another measuring stick. If the talk around Water Valley is accurate — that they’ve got the overall athleticism and team speed that can at least be in the same ZIP code as Jayton, and Gordon, then this is the week they need to prove it. Because if they are on that level, then they’re not just in the conversation for a playoff run… they’re in the conversation for maybe even pushing into a battle with the Longhorns themselves.

For Water Valley, this has to be a statement game. A convincing win would validate everything being said about their potential ceiling. It would tell us they’re not just a “good team with some good players,” but a true contender capable of punching with the best at the end. I’m pretty convinced that WV will mercy rule all the way to State Championship where for the first time this season both teams will see really good football team with more than one elite level athlete.

But if Newcastle is able to move the ball consistently, put up multiple scores, or keep it tight into the late third or fourth quarter, then the picture becomes clearer to how December ends.

Personally, I’d love to see WV dethrone the Longhorns ..only fair since they took away our 3-peat.

Prediction:
WV-60
Newcastle-15
3 minutes into third Q
Wildcatman,
I like the way you broke these teams down. You provided some great points. I'm not familiar with Newcastle this year, but in the past, they have been a solid, well coached team. The WV defense is the best I have seen in many years. This is the result of many athletic players that play smart football. While their defense gets stops, their offense is very dynamic. They have success on the ground and in the air. Looking forward to the matchup this Friday night in Baird, TX.
 
I just think its a good match up to look at the East and the West and Great way for WV to show what I think we all know their capable of. Newcastle lost to May earlier in the year by 3 Tds, and May Lost to Richland Springs by 3 TDs for a total of 6 TD difference between Richland Springs and Newcastle. Gordon Beat Richland Spring by mercy rule to start the third Q by 6 TDs. So WV is going to need to come out popping and firing on all cylinders if they are wanting to pull believers other than their own community that they are indeed capable of pushing that envelope. Can't wait. I'll be there!!
 
WV wins by 45 easily. We will see how they do when they play Gordon (I have Gordon by 45, they are just that good).

I know its beating a dead horse, but I have to agree. As good as I think Water Valley is, Gordon is just that much better. They have speed that nobody in the state is even close to. Also helps that they have probably the best sixman coach of all time after it is all said and done
 
WV has the ability to play and score on Gordon. It will come down to whether their coaches can figure it out or not...as in calling the right offense
I like the way you worded that like you really believe it. No worries it’s good to have faith. As for the rest of us we’ll take Gordon in a 45 point mercy game. Best you can hope is that cheerleaders get to perform at halftime.
 
I know it’s beating a dead horse, but I have to agree. As good as I think Water Valley is, Gordon is just that much better. They have speed that nobody in the state is even close to. Also helps that they have probably the best sixman coach of all time after it is all said and done
Close to? Yes. Gordon didnt win the 4x100 relay at state (klondike) did or even place a kid in the longjump at state. Did handily win the 4x400 and high jump Did not win state basketball. Did not win baseball. They are however stacked with talent and I would love someone to just make them sweat a little. It’s overdone with how good they are like you said ….. and i would personally love yo see someone hang it on them… also realizing thats really really unlikely. A pipe dream
 
I like the way you worded that like you really believe it. No worries it’s good to have faith. As for the rest of us we’ll take Gordon in a 45 point mercy game. Best you can hope is that cheerleaders get to perform at halftime.
You are entitled to your opinion. There have been MULTIPLE other coaches that have seen or played WV say the same thing..this WV team can challenge them. But keep up with your attitude.
 
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