Non-UIL players who can start on a UIL Team?

smokeyjoe53":29kdbzh0 said:
most fan's perspective (myself included) are myopic...........................

That thar iz an awephul soefisticaited wurd fer us'n rednecks !! I had too look up the meenin. Took me 45 minutes .... Thyn I had two figger out what it sead. I gitted a headake !!
 
We scrimmaged three Private schools and played 4. We are 3-1, losing to Tomball Christian, which was a great learning experience. Back-to-Back weeks we played Jonesboro and Tomball and lost both. We learn way more from our losses than we ever have our wins. My theory is: We will play anyone; anywhere. My first seven games mean nothing to me (as far as record goes), except to prepare my team to play playoff caliber teams. The district games dictate if you make the playoffs, and once you're in, anything can happen. I would rather be 3-7 and make the playoffs, than 7-3 and miss out. If my school board or administration doesn't agree, so be it; but my main purpose is to teach football, life lessons and take them as far as possible.
 
justobserving":1yd6fy6w said:
smokeyjoe53":1yd6fy6w said:
most fan's perspective (myself included) are myopic...........................

That thar iz an awephul soefisticaited wurd fer us'n rednecks !! I had too look up the meenin. Took me 45 minutes .... Thyn I had two figger out what it sead. I gitted a headake !!
HELPFULL HINT #54 From Smokey:
Highlight any word or phrase ( if using Google Chrome ) right click, select search with Google.
 
smokeyjoe53":i7s9ba8j said:
justobserving":i7s9ba8j said:
smokeyjoe53":i7s9ba8j said:
most fan's perspective (myself included) are myopic...........................

That thar iz an awephul soefisticaited wurd fer us'n rednecks !! I had too look up the meenin. Took me 45 minutes .... Thyn I had two figger out what it sead. I gitted a headake !!
HELPFULL HINT #54 From Smokey:
Highlight any word or phrase ( if using Google Chrome ) right click, select search with Google.

Thanx fer the hint butt I ain't got no tall or high lights. Got a mekanix werk lite. I thinc maebee I wrong clicked stidda right clickin.
 
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JO's been infected with the Goob virus!

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smokeyjoe53":3yjpzqun said:
We are dangerously close to a hijack on this thread........... and this started as such a serious thread......... what a shame.......

O.K. I have had some antibiotic, some Advil and Diet Coke. Things seem a little better.

Smokeyjoe your concern is admirable but this was never a serious thread because it started in fantasy land to begin with. It seems it has circled back to where it started.
 
In my opinion, there are 3 and maybe 4 guys at Dallas Covenant that could start at most 5A schools in the Dallas area. They definitely have the speed, conditioning, desire and talent. The only negative might be size at some of the big 5A's. There is no question that they would start at most 4A schools in the state.
 
jsheley":29lhmliq said:
In my opinion, there are 3 and maybe 4 guys at Dallas Covenant that could start at most 5A schools in the Dallas area. They definitely have the speed, conditioning, desire and talent. The only negative might be size at some of the big 5A's. There is no question that they would start at most 4A schools in the state.

It doesn't get better, it gets worse …. Holy Moly ….

Dallas the Covenant beat Valley 38 - 24 is that not correct ? Valley is a good football team. IMHO after seeing them play they don't have a player that could start on a 5A team. Seeing as how DC only beat them by 14 I find it extremely hard to swallow that DC has that type of personnel. Four 5A level players on one 6 man team would be beyond dominant. I would say the 45 point rule would be surpassed in 1 to 1 ½ quarters or sooner with no trouble.

I watch one of the top rated 2A schools in the state weekly and it was be hard pressing for more than 2 or 3 of the 6 man players I have seen this year to step into that lineup in a starting role.

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzz people get a grip. This is another one of this
"Reality Check Moments" on the 6 man site.

Please see advice for Cherry5 previously posted in this thread…..
 
Ok folks, lets put this into perspective. Approximately 1% of of a 5A school's total enrollment make the varsity team. Starters make up .5% or less. Using those same percentages, a large sixman school would have 1 (at best) player that could make a 5A team, but it's unlikely that person would be a starter. Division 1 sixman teams have an average enrollment of 75. Do the math people. 1 player that could start for a 5A team would be amazing. 3 or more would be a miracle.
 
As i said in my post, it would be hard for some of the kids to go to 5A because of size. I am also not talking about playing for Allen or Southlake Carroll necessarily. But there are a bunch of VERY decent/mediocre 5A teams and a lot of bad ones. Here is my thought to ponder. Don't you think that if you took the top 40 6-man teams and allowed each to give their best 3 players and then throw in any guys over 225 lbs to try out and then do a 2 week team try out, you could put together a pretty decent and competitive 11 man offense and defense. I kind of do...I think you could have a pretty good 4A team and a VERY competitive 3A team. I played on a very mediocre 5A team in the late 70's and there is no question that there are 3-4 guys at Covenant that would have made that team and a couple of them would have started. They have the speed and strength to play at that level....

As for the Valley/Covenant game, it rained the entire time. The field was wet and slick and the balls were slick and probably weighed about 5 pounds :) I don't even know how many fumbles there were in that game. I am NOT taking anything away from Valley, but the rain negated some speed and offense for sure....
 
Living in a town that has one of the best 3A teams in the state and two very good 5A teams, I sometimes get to see kids move from one school to another, including back and forth between our 6man team and one of the 5A teams. We don't have any 300 pound 5A-caliber linemen on our 6man team. 6man isn't the game for those big fellas. But we do see kids playing 6man that go to one of the big schools and start as receivers, running backs, defensive backs, linebackers, etc. And we see kids playing those positions at big schools that come to our school and do well in 6man too. We don't usually get to have that one special athlete that has D1-caliber speed or size. Those kids almost always go to the bigger schools in hopes of having a better chance at a scholarship. But there isn't a 5A team anywhere that has 22 kids that are like that. Most 5A teams have a spot somewhere where the best athletes in 6man could start. The kid might be the best player on his 6man team and be middle (or even bottom) of the pack on the 5A team's starting lineup. But there are a LOT more positions to fill in 5A, with 11 slots on both sides of the ball and most kids only playing just one way.

When we play UIL 6man teams in the smaller towns and see some of the really great athletes on those teams, it's obvious to me that many of the best athletes would be starting wherever they lived in whatever school they were attending. Not all of the freshman, sophomore or even juniors that start on 6man teams would start on a 5A varsity team. Lots of great athletes don't start on the big schools' teams until their senior year. Those schools have to go through the seniority deal, as they have a lot of kids in their programs. That's another consideration (along with politics). But just on athletic ability alone, there are several 6man athletes that would play on bigger schools' teams eventually at one position or another.
 
jsheley":1i4nmsve said:
As i said in my post, it would be hard for some of the kids to go to 5A because of size. I am also not talking about playing for Allen or Southlake Carroll necessarily. But there are a bunch of VERY decent/mediocre 5A teams and a lot of bad ones. Here is my thought to ponder. Don't you think that if you took the top 40 6-man teams and allowed each to give their best 3 players and then throw in any guys over 225 lbs to try out and then do a 2 week team try out, you could put together a pretty decent and competitive 11 man offense and defense. I kind of do...I think you could have a pretty good 4A team and a VERY competitive 3A team. I played on a very mediocre 5A team in the late 70's and there is no question that there are 3-4 guys at Covenant that would have made that team and a couple of them would have started. They have the speed and strength to play at that level....

As for the Valley/Covenant game, it rained the entire time. The field was wet and slick and the balls were slick and probably weighed about 5 pounds :) I don't even know how many fumbles there were in that game. I am NOT taking anything away from Valley, but the rain negated some speed and offense for sure....

A quote from the movie The Color of Money that fits this whole recurring support for this premis … as the character Grady Seasons says to the character Vincent (Tom Cruise) "It's like a nightmare, isn't it? It just keeps getting worse and worse."

I would like to have seen that game - it negated the speed for one team but not the other. That is some strange rain for sure.
 
Forget the Valley comment - do you not thing that there are guys in 6-man that could play 11 man UIL??? My logic is that if you take the top 40 teams, then you equal the size of an average 5A school. I think you could get enough players from the top 40 6-man teams to compete - don't you?? I wouldn't mind trying to coach that group of kids....
 
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