WindthorstFan3
Six-man fan
I didn't know getting into the playoffs earned you a ribbon or a participation trophy. You have to win a game to get the trophy.
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Roach
Six-man expert
Win a game? One thing that bugs me about today's world is the fact you have 0-10 teams going to the playoffs. Its almost like district doesn't matter anymore. And I will say I do like windthorst and the tradition there. I believe the last names were Green? Extremely talented players. Those were some fun times.
How many games do you technically have to win to get in the playoffs?
WindthorstFan3
Six-man fan
As they say location is key to everything! Some locations it is only 1 game other locations it can be 2 or even 3 games. We were once a 4 seed that beat a 1 seed. Every year is different, our district this year stunk but again location put us in that district and it's not our fault some districts are strong and some are weak. I know it doesn't happen often but sometimes that four seed does bite that 1 seed. Think it was 10-15 years ago a 2-7 Wichita Falls Rider went on a 3 game playoff run. Back 2007, when they only took 3 teams we backed into the playoffs with only 2 wins in district and then proceeded to make a run to the region finals where we lost to the eventual state champions 16-17 and finished the year 6-7.
Pdevitt13
Six-man expert
Minimum seems to be 1 right?
District 10 in 1A D2. You could realistically go 1-9 and make the playoffs if your 1 win was over one of your district opponents.
If that said opponent went 0-2 in district you'd be 2nd place.
Darkhorse53483726
Six-man fan
I believe that if they want to play bigger schools in football, why not play them in all other sports. It doesn’t make sense that they want to play 2A in just football then go 1A in all other sports. This is just my opinion.
txcoachttu
Six-man fan
They don't want to play "2A" football, they want to play 11man or NOT play 6man. It feels like you want to punish all the other sports because they aren't choosing your type of football. The girls basketball coach, the track teams, the cross country runners shouldn't be affected because they want to keep playing 11man football.
Darkhorse53483726
Six-man fan
If they want to play eleven man football that means they want to play 2A to stay eleven man. I do not want to punish any team, matter of fact if it were up to me all schools that turn in 104.9 or lower would play 6man football. However it’s not up to me this is just my opinion.
TXForever13
Six-man fan
IMO the cutoff numbers are to high for 1A to 2A. If schools are still able to play 11-man with "6-Man" cutoff numbers that means the numbers are too high. The difference in 1A D1 to 2A D2 is about 40 kids. That his a huge disadvantage to the lower end 1A D1 schools trying to compete with schools nearly twice their size. This goes all the way up through 2A. If you come in on the lower end of 2A D2 like around 105 to 110 you end up possibly getting stuck in a district with schools who report 180 or lower. Thats almost twice the size. We already have too many state champs at the end of the season with it being broke down into divisions, so i do not know how to fix it without adding more divisions and adding even more participation trophies. i would like to see every division go back to taking 2 or possibly 3 and rewarding a district champ with a bye first round, but there is a better chance of them adding a 5th seed then that ever happening. 6-man has it right, maybe just need to tweak the numbers a bit.
Roach
Six-man expert
I get your point but I dont see how it would "punish," any other sports. Us older guys competed in spring sports with all 2A. And we still did great. So your point is mute. I am agreement with darkhorse and yeah of they opt-up to 2A, why not play 2A in basketball, volleyball, track, tennis, and golf? Btw (and I absolutely hate bringing my accomplishments up), but in tennis we took care of all 2A, beat the 3A state champs, and 4A state champs in our "scrimmage matches at their courts. Only scrimmage we lost was to Tascosa who got 2nd in state who was 5A (now 6A) that year (my junior year). And we played them very close. So to say its to punish, I disagree. And again this is my opinion.
Woodson is 2-8 and made the playoffs because their two wins were in district.
txcoachttu
Six-man fan
Just because there are exceptions doesn't mean the point is mute. If there wasn't an issue with spring sports, the UIL would've never created 6A and let the 1A teams have their own track division. As a coach, I greatly benefited from that split. We had a kid get beaten at regionals in the discus by some "2A" kids. One of them being a current NFL player. After the split, he's the state champion the next year. It matters, if it didnt' then everyone would all be lumped together no matter the enrollment. Those schools are already at a disadvantage playing 11man football with less kids, having their vball, bball, bsball, and track kids go against teams that could be almost 2.5-3times bigger than them is a punishment. Its ok for smaller schools to still want to play 11man football, its a community decision, how does it affect anyone but them?
Roach
Six-man expert
You said as a coach you greatly benefited from the split. Maybe your kid that is in the NFL now realized there was better competition and worked harder to improve? Or maybe being a year older helped him. Just hearing what you are saying seems you were upset your kid didn't win that particular year because there was "better competition." I agree to disagree. And yes there are exceptions, like the kid from Van Horn high jumping 7'. He would've won in most of not all divisions that year. Another exception is the girl from Springlake Earth that won state 4 years in a row in long distance. Better competition can be a good thing and push kids that are very motivated to be better. To think that is a punishment seems to be a weaker mindset. Just because he didn't win state doesnt take away the fact of what he has accomplished now. You said, and again just quoting you, you as a coach greatly benefited from the split. That seems selfish imo. Im just not a fan of watering down sports in general. And before the split in 1A, the teams that won state were basically all 6man schools for years. The only one I can think of that won very quick was Throckmorton. Also there have been some amazing track, tennis, volleyball, etc. getting more recognition now but if a kid wins the lomg jump with a 20 foot jump and a kid from a division jumped a 23 it means lack of competition. Ask Ryan Atkins, Albert Booker, Brandon Hoskins to name a few if they had trouble with running against the now 2A schools? For a long time the record holder in girls hurdles was from my hometown of 500 people. It just seems you like the split more for your personal reasons, maybe resume (idk). Fact is good competition makes kids better. Which is why my brother and I played ALL of the "bigger schools," in tennis for preparation for regional and state. I think the mindset now is weak but that's just me. Again, agree to disagree
txcoachttu
Six-man fan
You are correct, I'm not trying to change your mind or convince you. I just agree with the UIL, and most coaches/supts that vote for those type things, that playing a classification bigger than the school you are in is considered a disadvantage. I don't want to go down the whole rabbit hole of watered-down, too many champions, etc. Thread was already hi-jacked from its inteded purpose, good luck to those schools that made the playoffs. Maybe they can go them a trophy or two.
freeagent
Six-man pro
Maybe this is off the mark, but I really don't like four-team districts. You play 7 non-district games hoping that you stay well enough to play three district games at the end of the season.
What might be a better deal is to go from 16 to 8 six-man districts in each division and make them 8 team districts, taking the top four team in each district (just like 2A-6A), That way, you play 7 district games that mean something and you only need to worry about filling those three early season games.
But that opinion and fifty cents buys you a cup of coffee in a real cheap joint.
Ick... bring back 8 team districts where the deserving make it.
Texlonghorn75
Six-man expert
Woodson was giving Strawn a good game right up to kickoff.
