Sixman Demands??

Little Doc":xy7hfu3b said:
I don't think it's EXPECTED, but it is sure nice when a district wants to take care of it's people. The school has probably in past years needed this as an incentive to keep and entice good folks and just continue to do it because they can afford it. When they get to where it is too costly they usually add a rent fee that is nominal. These districts are to be commended for valuing their employees to this level.

This is why I asked the question. I would say 90% of the applicants, that are coming from a six man school, are adamant about housing. Even choosing to decline an interview because of no housing options. Not one of the applicants from 11-man have even asked about it. I compared Buckholts salary to two of the 2A schools I interviewed with this spring and they're very similar. I'm actually making more at Mt. Calm than one of the salaries offered at one of the schools - no housing available. I'm not concerned with whether it's right or it's wrong, I just wasn't sure where and why it became such a demand for a job. I didn't think about the western communities not having rental properties, but it makes sense. Just remember, when you come east - most of these communities are around the Austin/Temple/Waco/Dallas area; so housing is plentiful. I pay $700/month on a 3/2 that is 1,600 square foot and a fenced back yard. Very nice neighborhood and a very nice home, but it's not in Mt. Calm. I will be driving 18 minutes to work each day, which was acceptable to me. I will be paying less than 15% of my salary on housing, which is an acceptable rate - no matter the profession.
 
twodollarbill":3ujv8umo said:
Blue Bird":3ujv8umo said:
Two dollar, Do you believe a coach should be paid a stipend, extra money for extra hours working with kids? Do you believe each school and coach could and should negotiate the amount to be paid. Where is the kick for offering a house as part of their stipend? You pay a coach less money and a house to live in. Money and house=full stipend paid. It comes out the same whether there is a house involved or not. Metromess schools have been paying large stipends for teachers with math and science degrees, more stipends than most of their coaches get. You pay and offer what you need to get a quality staff.
Let me try again to clear this up. I believe a coach/educator should be paid whatever it is that is negotiated as their salary. If that includes a house, a car, no bills or an annual all expense paid trip to Bora Bora then you're a good negotiator. That being said and in the spirit of the topic of this thread, I don't believe a coach/educator or school for that matter has the right to DEMAND (that is the name of the thread) such perks. School Boards have a feduciary duty to spend Taxpayers dollars in a responsible manner. If that includes housing for coaches/educator, so be it. But let that be the WILL of the citizenry (not the School). And again, to those of you who have obviously taken offense to my view point, I am not suggesting that you haven't earned or even deserve what you have. I am simply saying that it shouldn't be a demand.


How do they decide who gets the homes? If a science teacher has 100& pass rate on STAAR; are they even an option? I only know of one coach over here in the east that has a home, but he teaches 5 classes; so I can understand how he may be at the top of the line for housing. However, how does school district decide between a principal, an AD, Counselor, and any teacher with tenure? Or are their multiple homes? Again, I could care less about the ethics behind it; I am just trying to learn more about it. Each school will decide their own fiscal qualifications for their district. I 'm more curious about the process.
 
Coach Satcher, I believe some small schools hold school housing for coaches because of the long hours spent with the kids, plus the need for close access to the school. Some schools have housing for teachers on an available basis. Housing is sometimes offered to help new beginning teachers get their feet on a solid basis, with the intent they find housing when available. Some small towns have little housing available, or land to build new homes on. Two dollar bill needs to get on his local school board because every board needs someone to stir the taxpayers up when everything is going fine the way it is. The tradition to provide housing has been around forever in some towns, but there is usually one person, no matter how things are going that is going to create a problem when there aren't any. If a school has never had housing for coaches or teachers, I don't think anyone is going to demand housing like he is provoking. If someone is demanding something that is not available, then adios to them.
 
Most administraters want their coaches living close to the school so that the coaches door gets knocked on at all hours of the evening by kids wanting the keys to get in the gym or weight room. At eighteen miles, Coach Satcher, you are out of that fray unless you plan ahead.
 
Little Doc":1b2uh79s said:
Coach Satcher, I believe some small schools hold school housing for coaches because of the long hours spent with the kids, plus the need for close access to the school. Some schools have housing for teachers on an available basis. Housing is sometimes offered to help new beginning teachers get their feet on a solid basis, with the intent they find housing when available. Some small towns have little housing available, or land to build new homes on. Two dollar bill needs to get on his local school board because every board needs someone to stir the taxpayers up when everything is going fine the way it is. The tradition to provide housing has been around forever in some towns, but there is usually one person, no matter how things are going that is going to create a problem when there aren't any. If a school has never had housing for coaches or teachers, I don't think anyone is going to demand housing like he is provoking. If someone is demanding something that is not available, then adios to them.

Makes sense.
 
Blue Bird":t2k9nqz1 said:
Most administraters want their coaches living close to the school so that the coaches door gets knocked on at all hours of the evening by kids wanting the keys to get in the gym or weight room. At eighteen miles, Coach Satcher, you are out of that fray unless you plan ahead.

I've always made a point of living at least 10 miles from the school. This gives me time to get "my head right", before walking in to my family. This also eliminates the random visits by players and parents. I spend 60-70 hours per week at the school. The other time is for my family. Weight room and gym access is scheduled in advance. so it eliminates the need to have access any other time.
 
My wife and I decided that we will not even consider a school if there were no school housing. If we are going to rent a house, our money will at least go back into the school system, and not to some landlord. Everybody has deal-breakers when it comes to jobs. School Housing happens to be mine.

During our 8 years at Crane, we bought a house, and it was a pain in the rear from beginning to end. The next house we buy will be our retirement home.
 
coachjdjones":zn8rf4hg said:
My wife and I decided that we will not even consider a school if there were no school housing. If we are going to rent a house, our money will at least go back into the school system, and not to some landlord. Everybody has deal-breakers when it comes to jobs. School Housing happens to be mine.

During our 8 years at Crane, we bought a house, and it was a pain in the rear from beginning to end. The next house we buy will be our retirement home.


That's what my wife and I are working on. Our next home will be a purchase and will hopefully be our last.
 
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