Composite Footballs

coachsatcher

Six-man fan
I heard there was discussion at the clinic of approaching UIL to allow 1A football teams to use composite footballs. Is there any truth to this, or was it just rumor?
 
UIL has advised VARSITY teams to use LEATHER, but sub-varsity can use synthetic.

Officials must notify UIL of teams using synthetic footballs.

See what happens when u miss the coaches meetings, LOL,
But there was discussion about synthetic footballs.


This subject got under my skin at the coaching clinic... LOL

Funny story, Our JV team played Jonesboro JV and they broke out a synthetic football.
I LOST IT .. Coach Gallegos showed me the UIL rules on sub-varsity synthetic footballs.

I wanted to grab that synthetic football and punt it to the parking lot, LOL
 
That's funny. I'm not a fan of them, but they sure are much easier on my feeble budget. Tough to make $1,500/year last when you're dropping $79.00/ball. Fortunately, someone gave us field paint this year, so we're going to make it; but boy it gets closer and closer every year.
 
I was told by Dr. Elza that officials can not prevent you from using composite footballs in a varsity game but that they would/should file a report to UIL...the supt of schools will then be contacted by UIL to buy leather footballs for varsity play.
 
coachsatcher":12sybejc said:
That's funny. I'm not a fan of them, but they sure are much easier on my feeble budget. Tough to make $1,500/year last when you're dropping $79.00/ball. Fortunately, someone gave us field paint this year, so we're going to make it; but boy it gets closer and closer every year.
How many balls does it take each year? just wondren. I thought I saw leather balls at Walmart for less than 79. How much is a full set of new uni's each year? I really don't know.
 
coachsatcher":319iaxlo said:
I heard there was discussion at the clinic of approaching UIL to allow 1A football teams to use composite footballs. Is there any truth to this, or was it just rumor?

Thanks Coach, inadvertently for a memory. I guess I'll date myself here. In I think 1965 my grandparents gave me a rubber football for Christmas. It bounced like a basketball, I already had a better one. They lived in Irving Texas. Going to their house in 66 sometime around the Christmas holidays the NFL championship was going on on the radio from the Cotton Bowl. Daddy was excited. If I remember right it was blacked out on black and white tv in the FW/d area by the nfl to ensure better attendance from locals.
This would be overcome in the next year or two by "Cowboy" antenna's that could pick up the Wichita Falls or Waco signal. Cowboy's lost to the Packers in the last minute according to a player or two because of Tom Landry's play call. Happens to the best of em'.
The next year was the Ice Bowl, we were at Unk and Aunt Kate's house in Bowie. First game I really remember on black and white tv. I hated the Packrs a while after that.

http://www.profootballhof.com/football- ... -ice-bowl/
 
ol' gus":2bqdt4ku said:
coachsatcher":2bqdt4ku said:
That's funny. I'm not a fan of them, but they sure are much easier on my feeble budget. Tough to make $1,500/year last when you're dropping $79.00/ball. Fortunately, someone gave us field paint this year, so we're going to make it; but boy it gets closer and closer every year.
How many balls does it take each year? just wondren. I thought I saw leather balls at Walmart for less than 79. How much is a full set of new uni's each year? I really don't know.

We like to carry at least four. It's nice to have back ups just in case, but at bare minimum, we carry four. A football, to be legal, must be approved by the NCAA. One of the huge misconceptions is that if it's stamped by NFHS it's ok, but NFHS has no official say in the equipment use for UIL athletics. We feel like we're buying the cheapest balls on the market at $69-$79, which means we're typically spending around $300/year on footballs. Uniforms are different for every school. We buy ours every two years, but the boys have to do fundraisers to cover the cost. You can go crazy and spend over $100 on just the jersey, but we typically spend about $30-$40 a piece. We got our pants donated from Goodsports.org.
 
coachsatcher":25gpb4ve said:
ol' gus":25gpb4ve said:
coachsatcher":25gpb4ve said:
We got our pants donated from Goodsports.org.

Isn't this a UIL violation or has UIL rules changed. I do know a school can't receive donations from Nike or under-armour, so how is this different.

I'M NOT ACCUSING MT. CALM OF BREAKING ANY RULES, JUST THOUGHT I'D ASK.
 
I would think that it would be fine since Goodsports is a non-profit that distributes donated products from manufacturers to various programs....... but what do I know......... if the UIofL gets their panties in a wad, so be it.....
 
This is a crony capitalist rule to outlaw composite balls for no other reason than the one brought up by Coach Satcher: composite balls are cheaper, and many school districts will buy them over leather balls given the chance.

I mean, unless someone knows of some safety issue that is exclusive to the use of composite balls?
 
Composite balls do give you a definite advantage in the kicking game. If it was legal, we would use them on Special Teams, no doubt.
 
Jones26":25yak84v said:
Composite balls do give you a definite advantage in the kicking game. If it was legal, we would use them on Special Teams, no doubt.
I disagree. Before the rule against them, both teams could use them therefore there was no advantage for neither had an advantage.
 
There is a definite advantage when kicking, trust me. Yes the advantages equal out when both teams used them, but there is definite and very clear advantage to kicking a composite ball rather than a leather ball. That is fact!
 
Jones26":21qjfqvf said:
There is a definite advantage when kicking, trust me. Yes the advantages equal out when both teams used them, but there is definite and very clear advantage to kicking a composite ball rather than a leather ball. That is fact!

I don't think you know what advantage means. Is composite is more kicker friendly? Probably . But that is not an advantage if both teams can use them.
 
Don't know that a composite gives any more of a competitive advantage if both teams can use.

Don't see any mandate/oversight on uniforms- Say one team wearing the compression jerseys/pants (Under Armour tight fit), while the other team has the "tough twill" jerseys with a less "form fit"....Seems to me that gives one team a definitive advantage because they had a little bigger/better budget....JMHO

Have seen a number of players with the "tough twill" jerseys grabbed and brought down by the jersey only....
 
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