Best J-Bird Offense

You can call it hybrid if you want….

BC ran a shotgun J vs Jonesboro , the typical middle guard and TE were both standing up in WR stances … that’s spread ( IMO).

RS has always run tight? Wasn’t Tyler Ethridge a spread back ? Didn’t Walker Tippie break a state record playing spreadback in the state title game?

Richland beat us in the 2nd round 2016 running spread/tight evenly

2017 they went solely tight (vs us) and we 45d them.

GF played against us in the state title game in 2013*** (They ran spread)

Crowell I’ll have to do more research , I’ve always remembered them for being pass heavy . I assumed spread because that’s what they ran against us .


The post I was replying to said non one in the last 10 years won state running spread and that’s simply not true . If you consider it “Hybrid” I can respect it .
Well done insider!! Only one thing to add. Walker tippee did not break the record at state but he tied Dwayne miles and
 
Dewayne Lee is a Terrible x and o guy. Foolish to bring his name up in this topic.
Dewayne is known for makeing front line trench soldiers.
Lots of verbal abuse and lift weights 24/7. The military needs to put a office in Strawn.
Your best coaches today for the J are, no specific order here.
Vance Jones, Mike Reed, Shawn Rogers, Harley Etheridge very sharp O mind, Trey Richey,
Played vs Strawn last season. Coach Lee showed me why his teams are always great.. the way they controlled us with tight T with a young rebuilding Strawn team was beautiful to watch from the opposite sideline.. they had a freshman that was balling…. just wish we would’ve won that game on the 1 yard line.. still haven’t gotten over that game.. we were close. Also he loves his kids at Strawn.. if I had a son right now I would love for him to play for Coach Lee!!!!!
 
Didn't Fort Hancock run mostly spread? Allen Luker at Panther Creek had Humphrey at spread back for a couple of years after that. Back in the day (before state championship) Star ran spread every year. In 1970 they crushed Carbon in their Regional game.
 
Re-reading this thread and there are some people that are wrong. Not everyone who has won state ran just a "tight" offense. Grandfalls won with a spread offense with Coach Helms (RIP). Vance is very creative and uses/used a split WR. You can call it J but he used multiple variations I thought were very interesting and creative. The double split was pretty cool to see as well. Heck McLean technically ran some spread, but mainly to give Crockett some more space, but he also did throw some TD's out of it. RS during TE's freshman season looked predominantly spread. I assumed they ran that all 4 years but I could be wrong.

Also consider the fact that nowadays, coaches can and do run multiple offensive sets. So it's not just tight or just spread. Its been a while but I used to love seeing Garden City's offense when Vance was there. That sure was a fun team to watch. Also Whitharral ran spread but also ran strong right/j too. Watch the state game. They definitely were ahead of the times with Coach Hoskins. They were a multiple style offense too.
 
making the open field cut block illegal has crippled the true spread
That is definitely true and how you can or can not hit the center nowadays. Long time ago they used to bang up the center a few times and those long snaps were harder to do causing lots of turnovers. Can’t hit the center low anymore and that’s probably a good thing. I don’t think it was intentionally trying to hurt players but teams did have the linebacker stand the center up the other linebacker hit him low. Few of those and no telling where the snap might go.
 
making the open field cut block illegal has crippled the true spread
How far off on the line of scrimmage were the cutblocks? I remember my team being penalized for cut blocking in spread downfield. When we ran spread it was either a crackback (now illegal) or just blocking the guy in front of you downfield when the SB took off etc...
 
How far off on the line of scrimmage were the cutblocks? I remember my team being penalized for cut blocking in spread downfield. When we ran spread it was either a crackback (now illegal) or just blocking the guy in front of you downfield when the SB took off etc...
Worst thing you can do in true spread “option” is have the upbacks cut block, because it takes them away as a receiving threat (i.e. block and release).
 
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