Best 6-Man Passers of all Time

[Shad Kline]

I have a very different way to pick who I think is #1. Stats are not involved.

So, I was standing on the sideline of a football game at roughly the 25 yard line. The passer was actually playing defense at the time. A ball is thrown over the recievers head and the defenders head as well and goes out of the back of the endzone. Said defender trots back and grabs the ball, sees that the ball boy for the opposing team has already tossed in a replacement, locates the ball boy, roughly 40 yards away and makes a non-chalant throw, over my head (at 6'4") and into the open hand of the ball boy (at roughly 4'4") who was standing no more than 5 feet on the other side of me. He never moved, he never had to switch hands of the ball that he was already holding, he just had to put his hand out and the ball landed in it. I do believe I was given a heads up a few seconds later to pick up my jaw, as it was a jaw dropper.

 

[Johnny South]

Okay Mike, here are my top five without those I have helped coach.
I changed my top five I posted on page 10 of this topic only because of the prerequisite of making it to a state championship. I have also taken the time to watch three films of Crowell, again. And the same experience I have had with Tyler I must now admit applies to Mitchell...evaluation skyrocketed. These are based on only those I have personally watched either from the opposite sideline or in the stands.

1. Lyle Campbell, Gordon 1996-1999
2. Josh Thweatt, Panther Creek 1997-2000
3. Mitchell Parsley, Crowell 2011-2014
4. Jordan Barker, Whitharral 1999-2002
5. Blayne Batla, Garden City 2008-2011

Super Honorable Mention to Tucker Brown. And Nathan Howard of May. Nathan because had he not collided with RS in the 2005, 2006 and 2007 playoffs, he might have played in a state game or two.

BE, I hate to say it, but I think that most of the picks have been more of the best spreadback than passer. Maybe the subject should be changed to best Spreadback or Best All-Around player. Your choices as well as those that Mike doesn't want you to list fit more into the best Spreadback category I believe.

 

[BE]

Your splitting hairs, Johnny. Best passer is the topic, and that's what a Spreadback does. The only difference between a six-man QB and a SB is that the SB receives the extra exchange so that he can have the option. It is the best way to increase the tension on the defense so that they break under the double-threat of pass or run, rather than just one threat. And if you don't use a QB with the option to run or pass, you cant beat teams like RS and the past Throckmortons of the world. No time to see the field.

It's like having a triple-threat in basketball. A defender has to adjust his defense to handle the player's three options to score. If the off' player has picked up his dribble, he has killed his threat to drive to the basket. All he has is two threats--shoot or pass.

The main reason we added Spread Back to our All-District teams is to acknowledge the fact that some teams played a traditional offense, and some teams played Spread offense. Now, many teams play both, and are in fact inseparable in some. But they both throw the ball. Lyle, Mitchell, Barker, Tyler and others threw the ball from both positions, with and without a second exchange. How would we separate a player's stats between passes thrown from QB and those thrown from SB. No need too. Passing is passing.
In fact, passing in the Spread offense is more difficult because of the distance the thrower is from the LOS.

Just for the record and for those who come into this topic late and don't want to read a novel to get caught up, I coached two players who would replace two on this top five list. One of the two I had just two years to work with. If I had him through JH or all four HS years, no telling how dominate he would have been. He would have been a Lyle Campbell. Had the same size and decision making ability, with a better arm.

 

[BE]

Shad, lots of kids, even old men like me can throw an accurate pass when there is no pressure from hungry defenses determined to scalp opposing QBs and hang their hair on their lodge poles.
Every year beginning in 2002 I have seen scout team QBs who could do just what you said. Try them in the game and ...forget it .... Good QBs are rare as Saharan snow cones.

 

[centexfan7]

Jordan Barker in the top 5 list?! of all time!?

I personally know Jordan, didn't realize he was that good back in his playing days. I've seen him throw the ball around, he's got an arm. Guy can spin it.

 

[BE]

Barker was a stud when a football was in his hand. I saw him in three games in person and have analyzed two game films off and on since 2002.
Watching these kinds of players is my drug of choice. And so far a harmless high that keeps my feet on the ground and my mind in the clouds. There are only a few people you need to watch if the goal is to produce and develop a game-changer. Otherwise your wasting precious time which is limited when you have a job, family and other responsibilities.

Since this topic is passers, there are less than a dozen QBs one needs to watch and scrutinize. Just study the best. Write down what makes them so good. If you cant identify their best qualities how can you develop them. No one can be a Lyle Campbell. But you can pick up an element or two of the skills which made him one of the best in six-man history. When I started working with Tyler in the fifth grade, the only obvious thing he could do is throw. He hated football. He was a border-line pussy who let his sisters protect him, and got beaten half to death by his sis, Courtney, half a million times. But he had something most don't have, so I never worried about him. He seemed protected by something I could not identify. Plus he had an amazingly tender heart for things. His opponents would disagree I think.
But he loved to watch Lyle's games on tape. And we watched three or four of his games in person. Tyler picked up several of Campbell's skills just by watching and then going out and practicing them in the yard and street. He also adopted his way of playing defense. Actually, he studied Bo Simpson a lot, too. And Jared Hicks in 2003.
Along with the five already mentioned, no preparation for playing QB would be complete without studying Tyler and Dakota Woods. Dakota had lots of help of course, especially guys like Chris Bechthold and Erroll Ormesher and Nick Maxwell. But it was the QB who dismantled Crowell and Valley and Motley County in 2012 and 2013. Dakota was a film studier as much as Earl. Of course he got a much later start than my son.
Add to your study list college players Tim Tebow and Vince Young, and NFL QBs Favre and Brady. I may have gotten Young's name wrong. Been a while since I watched him. Oh, and get yourself a copy of Brownwood assistant coach Morris Southall's QB developing tape. It's super for training a high school or college bound QB.

 

[WestTexasKid]

I have a great passer in mind. Actually two brothers! The problem is thier stats aren't that great because they come from a powerhouse running school. Tyler and Zachary Goodwin of the Ira Bulldogs were both great passers! They could hit a dime if they needed too! But as I said the problem is they came from the sweep heavy Bulldogs so they didn't get much time to shine! But there were a few instances! In the 2013 season Tyler Goodwin dropped back and delivered a 50 yard bomb to Jared Cotton in the Regional Final against the Crowell Wildcats to keep the game close. The Bulldogs lost that night as the state favorite 48-36.

 

[Shad Kline]

Shad, lots of kids, even old men like me can throw an accurate pass when there is no pressure from hungry defenses determined to scalp opposing QBs and hang their hair on their lodge poles.
Every year beginning in 2002 I have seen scout team QBs who could do just what you said. Try them in the game and ...forget it .... Good QBs are rare as Saharan snow cones.

Maybe, but it still amazed me. The kid made your top 5 as well, it was Mitchell Parsley.

 

[Boys 2 Men]

BE, I am so glad you love watching film. Would you please watch the film on Tyler's senior year so that we can finally figure out how many interceptions he had?

 

[Boys 2 Men]

centexfan7, We don't have stats on Jordan Barker, can you please help us find those?

 

[centexfan7]

Ha! I'll see him tomorrow night in Robert Lee, I'll ask him.

 

[BE]

You want me to watch fourteen game films????????????? Cant do that. Here's an idea. Give him 10 interceptions and call it done.

 

[Boys 2 Men]

Shad,
The young man that impressed you between plays was arguably even more impressive during the plays and stands alone as the #1 passer of all time in Six-man Football according to the NCAA Rating system.

Congratulations Mitchell Parsley.

Here are the top 25 ranked by NCAA Ratings with at least 1000 yards passing during their full season according to the stats that we have. we hope more stats will continue to come in so that we can continually update this list.

NCAA Rank, - NCAA Rating, - NFL Rating, - NFL Rank, - Name, - Team, - Year, - Games Played
1 - 356 - 151 - 2 - Mitchell Parsley, Sr. - Crowell - 2014 - 14
2 - 317 - 147 - 6 - Chance Bush Sr. - Richland Springs - 2012 - 15
3 - 317 - 132 - 27 - Tyler Ethridge Sr. - Richland Springs - 2007 - 14
4 - 302 - 150 - 4 - Dakota Woods Sr. - Follett - 2013 - 14
5 - 299 - 142 - 10 - Tucker Brown Sr. - Throckmorton - 2011 - 14
6 - 298 - 133 - 23 - Shannon Forehand - Weinert - 1985 - 10
7 - 293 - 145 - 9 - Lanham Brown Sr. - Throckmorton - 2014 - 14
8 - 291 - 138 - 13 - Brendon Brawley, Jr. - Granbury Cornerstone - 2012 - 12
9 - 287 - 104 - 57 - Riley Stone, Jr. - Blum - 2013 - 12
10 - 282 - 154 - 1 - Tucker Brown Jr. - Throckmorton - 2010 - 15
11 - 274 - 136 - 17 - Blayne Batla, Soph - Garden City - 2009 - 15
12 - 271 - 151 - 3 - Mitchell Parsley, Jr - Crowell - 2013 - 15
13 - 268 - 135 - 18 - Bryson Oliver, Jr. - Throckmorton - 2012 - 15
14 - 266 - 142 - 11 - Lyle Campbell, Jr. - Gordon - 1998 - 13
15 - 265 - 145 - 8 - Nicholi Maxwell, Sr. - Follett - 2014 - 13
16 - 263 - 128 - 32 - Lance Morris, Sr. - Ira - 2011 - 13
17 - 256 - 148 - 5 - Bryson Oliver, Sr. - Throckmorton - 2013 - 10
18 - 252 - 135 - 19 Braxton Oliver - Throckmorton - 2005 - 15
19 - 251 - 114 - 50 - Zach Digby, Jr. - Hermlegh - 2013 - 11
20 - 246 - 134 - 20 - Blayne Batla, Jr. - Garden City - 2010 - 15
21 - 246 - 146 - 7 - Lyle Campbell, Sr. - Gordon - 1999 - 14
22 - 245 - 142 - 12 - David Alonso, Jr. - Mount Calm - 2014 - 13
23 - 237 - 127 - 34 - Tanner Richey, Jr. - Borden County - 2011 - 15
24 - 230 - 133 - 25 - Slade Coulter, SOPH. - Jayton - 2013 - 11
25 - 229 - 137 - 14 - Joey Rosamond - Azle Christian - 2014 - 11


We will post more stats for you to compare and you can rank them as you see fit. Getting stats on these top players for just the games against teams ranked in the top 15 (as recommended by Reed) has proven to be very challenging. But we will work to identify how many games they played against teams ranked in the top 15.

Our objective with this thread has been to identify some of the top passers of all time based on stats from varsity vs varsity games. You may want to rank them differently and that is perfectly fine. One thing that all of these young men have in common is that that excelled in one aspect of this game and they were only able to accomplish this with the help of some truly outstanding team mates and coaches. Thanks to all who continue to help make better men out of our boys through the life lessons taught by participating in organized team sports like this great one we love called six-man football.

 

[RoyalandGold]

By the end of this season you will have to make room for another...Marty Flores from Rochelle is having a fantastic year!

 

[Boys 2 Men]

NCAA Rank, - NFL Rank, - Name, - Team, - Year, - Games Played - Champs - All State Honors - Granger Overall year end team rank
1 - 2 - Mitchell Parsley, Sr. - Crowell - 2014 - 14 - State - POY D1 - 1
2 - 6 - Chance Bush Sr. - Richland Springs - 2012 - 15 - State - POY D2 - 2
3 - 27 - Tyler Ethridge Sr. - Richland Springs - 2007 - 14 - State - POY - 1
4 - 4 - Dakota Woods Sr. - Follett - 2013 - 14 - Quarter Finals - Off MVP - D2 - 3
5 - 10 - Tucker Brown Sr. - Throckmorton - 2011 - 14 - State - POY D1 - 2
6 - 23 - Shannon Forehand - Weinert - 1985 - 10 - Quarter Finals - ? - ?
7 - 9 - Lanham Brown Sr. - Throckmorton - 2014 - 14 - State - QB - 2
8 - 13 - Brendon Brawley, Jr. - Granbury Cornerstone - 2012 - 12 - ? - ? - 148
9 - 57 - Riley Stone, Jr. - Blum - 2013 - 12 - Bi-Dist - 2nd T QB - D1 - 21
10 - 1 - Tucker Brown Jr. - Throckmorton - 2010 - 15 - Simi Finals - 2nd T QB D1 - 3
11 - 17 - Blayne Batla, Soph - Garden City - 2009 - 15 - State - 2nd T QB - D1 - 1
12 - 3 - Mitchell Parsley, Jr - Crowell - 2013 - 15 - State - POY - D1 - 1
13 - 18 - Bryson Oliver, Jr. - Throckmorton - 2012 - 15 - State - QB - 1
14 - 11 - Lyle Campbell, Jr. - Gordon - 1998 - 13 - Regional - None - 5
15 - 8 - Nicholi Maxwell, Sr. - Follett - 2014 - 13 - Regional - 2nd T SB D2 - 22
16 - 32 - Lance Morris, Sr. - Ira - 2011 - 13 - Regional - Off MVP - D1 - 4
17 - 5 - Bryson Oliver, Sr. - Throckmorton - 2013 - 10 - District - None - 8
18 - 19 Braxton Oliver - Throckmorton - 2005 - 15 - State - QB - 1
19 - 50 - Zach Digby, Jr. - Hermlegh - 2013 - 11 - None - None - 25
20 - 20 - Blayne Batla, Jr. - Garden City - 2010 - 15 - State - QB - D1 - 1
21 - 7 - Lyle Campbell, Sr. - Gordon - 1999 - 14 - State - SB - 1
22 - 12 - David Alonso, Jr. - Mount Calm - 2014 - 13 - Bi-Dist - HM QB D2 - 44
23 - 34 - Tanner Richey, Jr. - Borden County - 2011 - 15 - Simi Finals - HM Util Back - D1 - 3
24 - 25 - Slade Coulter, SOPH. - Jayton - 2013 - 11 - Bi-Dist - ? - 57
25 - 14 - Joey Rosamond - Azle Christian - 2014 - 11 - ? - ? - 53

 

[Boys 2 Men]

Please share post season stats for your top passers of this season.

 

[Boys 2 Men]

TD, - INT, - Comp / Attempt - Comp, - Att, - NCAA Rank, - NFL Rank, - Name, - Team, - Yards, - Year, - Games Played
54 - 1 - 73% - 95 - 130 - 1 - 2 - Mitchell Parsley, Sr. - Crowell - 2283 - 2014 - 14
24 - 2 - 79% - 57 - 72 - 2 - 6 - Chance Bush Sr. - Richland Springs - 1147 - 2012 - 15
55 - 9 - 75% - 116 - 154 - 3 - 27 - Tyler Ethridge Sr. - Richland Springs - 2491 - 2007 - 14
44 - 3 - 80% - 118 - 148 - 4 - 4 - Dakota Woods Sr. - Follett - 2264 - 2013 - 14
33 - 3 - 71% - 80 - 112 - 5 - 10 - Tucker Brown Sr. - Throckmorton - 1809 - 2011 - 14
49 - 7 - 69% - 113 - 164 - 6 - 23 - Shannon Forehand - Weinert - 2719 - 1985 - 10
43 - 1 - 65% - 80 - 123 - 7 - 9 - Lanham Brown Sr. - Throckmorton - 1673 - 2014 - 14
33 - 2 - 62% - 66 - 106 - 8 - 13 - Brendon Brawley, Jr. - Granbury Cornerstone - 1641 - 2012 - 12
44 - 3 - 60% - 78 - 131 - 9 - 57 - Riley Stone, Jr. - Blum - 1892 - 2013 - 12
24 - 1 - 78% - 69 - 89 - 10 - 1 - Tucker Brown Jr. - Throckmorton - 1247 - 2010 - 15
49 - 4 - 63% - 104 - 166 - 11 - 17 - Blayne Batla, Soph - Garden City - 2338 - 2009 - 15
52 - 2 - 73% - 154 - 211 - 12 - 3 - Mitchell Parsley, Jr - Crowell - 2986 - 2013 - 15
46 - 5 - 63% - 113 - 178 - 13 - 18 - Bryson Oliver, Jr. - Throckmorton - 2639 - 2012 - 15
37 - 2 - 65% - 91 - 140 - 14 - 11 - Lyle Campbell, Jr. - Gordon - 1937 - 1998 - 13
39 - 2 - 69% - 97 - 141 - 15 - 8 - Nicholi Maxwell, Sr. - Follett - 1805 - 2014 - 13
17 - 3 - 63% - 45 - 72 - 16 - 32 - Lance Morris, Sr. - Ira - 1120 - 2011 - 13
23 - 1 - 70% - 65 - 93 - 17 - 5 - Bryson Oliver, Sr. - Throckmorton - 1184 - 2013 - 10
36 - 2 - 57% 74 - 130 - 18 - 19 Braxton Oliver - Throckmorton - 1652 - 2005 - 15
19 - 7 - 70% - 54 - 77 - 19 - 50 - Zach Digby, Jr. - Hermlegh - 1080 - 2013 - 11
52 - 6 - 64% - 130 - 202 - 20 - 20 - Blayne Batla, Jr. - Garden City - 2480 - 2010 - 15
38 - 1 - 65% - 119 - 182 - 21 - 7 - Lyle Campbell, Sr. - Gordon - 2437 - 1999 - 14
46 - 5 - 69% - 151 - 219 - 22 - 12 - David Alonso, Jr. - Mount Calm - 2902 - 2014 - 13
37 - 6 - 60% - 91 - 151 - 23 - 34 - Tanner Richey, Jr. - Borden County - 1866 - 2011 - 15
23 - 3 - 61% - 67 - 110 - 24 - 25 - Slade Coulter, SOPH. - Jayton - 1384 - 2013 - 11
59 - 5 - 68% - 188 - 277 - 25 - 14 - Joey Rosamond - Azle Christian - 3105 - 2014 - 11

 

[Boys 2 Men]

Congratulations to Abbott & Richland Springs on winning the State Championships. Congrats to all players this year who started the season, gave it all you had & finished strong. Six-Man football is a great sport that helps build character and life skills. It helps grow boys into men.

The season is over and coaches are posting stats on the Texas Sixman Coaches Association website. I hope that while those stats are fresh on everyone's minds, that you will post them here along with the number of interceptions so that we can calculate passer ratings and compare them to our full list.

 

[Boys 2 Men]

We are looking for the Grandbury Cornerstone schedule for 2012. Please post it here or a link to it.

 

[Boys 2 Men]

Getting individual stats on games played against highly ranked teams has proven very difficult. What do you all think about averaging the final rank of all teams played for that season?