UIL??

[Shad Kline]

I think Caprock kid's underlying vent is because there are some really good teams that won't advance past the second round. It matters not if one loses in the early rounds or in the finals, only one team ends the season with a win.

No what I am getting at is there are a bunch of teams who shouldn't of even been involved in the playoffs. You can look at the bracket and see what I'm talking about there has to be a more accurate way of making the playoffs more challenging to determine a true champion. It just doesn't seem right for the best team in D2 to play the proclaimed second best when we know as fans that isn't the case.

Why shouldn't they be involved? They took care of business in district play. They deserve every right to be in the playoffs.

You're telling me a team that wins 3 games is a team that took care of business? I call that a weak district and a lucky team especially when your first place team only won 4 games.

Records don't mean squat. You give me any team in the state that has a power rating over 100 (for reference, Happy, BC, Crowell & Calvert is in the 350 range), and I can set up a schedule that will GUARANTEE a perfect 10-0 regular season. By the same token, give me a team that has a power rating in the 200's, I can set up a schedule that will GUARANTEE a perfect 0-10 regular season. Crowell was 6-3, Chester was 10-0, I will take Crowell 20 times out of 20 on that match up.

The State Champion has to go through the best of the best, regardless of what round it is in. I think that pretty much determines a "true" champion. Nobody has ever said that the losing team at State was necessarrily the second best in the state. That is not true more than it is. It's not just 6-man, nor high school that has the same problem, NFL, NBA, MLB, NCAA, none of them set up by seeding beyond their half of the bracket.

Can you tell me who the best 2 teams of 2016 and 2017 are? We would need that information pretty soon if we were to set up a bracket that pits the best two at state. While you are at it, I'm gonna need that info for all divisions, all sports, boys and girls. We need to be fair afterall.

I would be good with 8 districts and 4 teams per district go to the playoffs. It's still 32 teams, just like it is now, and the quality of team coming out of each district would be better. More playoff games are better, the money that the school makes helps them. And no, everyone doesn't get a trophy, ask the 2nd place team that made the playoffs just to lose in the first round if they got a trophy? I don't think they did....... And I'm pretty sure those participation ribbons stop being handed out about the 2nd grade. But I still bet they were happy to be in the playoffs...... and their school made money, thats a plus. And the kids got to play in a playoff game, etc, etc. How is that a bad thing?

 

[coach_jshelton]

More playoff games are better, the money that the school makes helps them. And no, everyone doesn't get a trophy, ask the 2nd place team that made the playoffs just to lose in the first round if they got a trophy? I don't think they did....... And I'm pretty sure those participation ribbons stop being handed out about the 2nd grade. But I still bet they were happy to be in the playoffs...... and their school made money, thats a plus. And the kids got to play in a playoff game, etc, etc. How is that a bad thing?

I think the number of schools who make money on the playoffs is minimal at best. That said, there are benefits of going to the playoffs that can't be measured in dollars.

 

[Caprock kid]

How many six man schools actually make money? I could understand if another couple of teams rented the field for a playoff game but not many playoff games actually get played in a six man community. For obvious reasons such as places to eat and most teams want to play at a bigger field and fans would rather travel to the bigger towns with more things to do. The only thing I can see that teams get out of making the playoffs is a confidence boost maybe a little bit more fan support and maybe the coach keeps his job that's about all the positive things I can think of.

 

[CowboyP]

How many six man schools actually make money? I could understand if another couple of teams rented the field for a playoff game but not many playoff games actually get played in a six man community. For obvious reasons such as places to eat and most teams want to play at a bigger field and fans would rather travel to the bigger towns with more things to do. The only thing I can see that teams get out of making the playoffs is a confidence boost maybe a little bit more fan support and maybe the coach keeps his job that's about all the positive things I can think of.

A confidence boost and added fan support is priceless.
We get it, you want two west teams to face off for the trophy. You're beating a dead horse because it isn't going to happen. If you think the championship game won't be any good, don't go - it's that simple.

 

[Coach Fudge]

I don't know that it matters what order you play teams in. To be the best you have to beat the best. It does not matter when or where...

It is the same in 11-man. Their are strong regions and weak regions. For instance a Rio Grand Valley team has not made it to the Regional Final in some time.

In regards to scheduling: we are currently working on our 2016-17 schedules. How are we suppose to know who is going to be good/great/bad in 3 years? We have an idea of what our teams will look like but even that is a crap shoot in many ways. (Throckmorton for instance)

Just my opinion.

 

[Dale Miller]

Every season is a season unto its own. 2014 D10 had a very good Strawn starting basketball while May and Gordon played on. You CANNOT predict how to set up the brackets to suit your opinion of what a good bracket is....

 

[Cougarfan13]

WOW , Caprock Kid , must have eaten too many paint chips as a kid. ABBOTT IS COMING FOR YOU...

 

[Caprock kid]

How many six man schools actually make money? I could understand if another couple of teams rented the field for a playoff game but not many playoff games actually get played in a six man community. For obvious reasons such as places to eat and most teams want to play at a bigger field and fans would rather travel to the bigger towns with more things to do. The only thing I can see that teams get out of making the playoffs is a confidence boost maybe a little bit more fan support and maybe the coach keeps his job that's about all the positive things I can think of.

A confidence boost and added fan support is priceless.
We get it, you want two west teams to face off for the trophy. You're beating a dead horse because it isn't going to happen. If you think the championship game won't be any good, don't go - it's that simple.

If I was going to go watch a blowout for state I would rather watch it in Houston.

 

[Caprock kid]

WOW , Caprock Kid , must have eaten too many paint chips as a kid. ABBOTT IS COMING FOR YOU...

I was always told if you hear the banjos playing you better paddle faster.

 

[texastraveler]

After UIL takes their 15% off the top the schools split the gate. Bigger stadium potential for bigger crowd which equal bigger payday

 

[Dogface]

I think Caprock kid's underlying vent is because there are some really good teams that won't advance past the second round. It matters not if one loses in the early rounds or in the finals, only one team ends the season with a win.

No what I am getting at is there are a bunch of teams who shouldn't of even been involved in the playoffs. You can look at the bracket and see what I'm talking about there has to be a more accurate way of making the playoffs more challenging to determine a true champion. It just doesn't seem right for the best team in D2 to play the proclaimed second best when we know as fans that isn't the case.

Why shouldn't they be involved? They took care of business in district play. They deserve every right to be in the playoffs.

He may be talking about
how the second placer in district
usually gets blown out the first round.
Some much bigger schools
get to send up to the 4th place team to playoffs.
What did a 4th place team do to deserve that?

 

[Shad Kline]

How many six man schools actually make money? I could understand if another couple of teams rented the field for a playoff game but not many playoff games actually get played in a six man community. For obvious reasons such as places to eat and most teams want to play at a bigger field and fans would rather travel to the bigger towns with more things to do. The only thing I can see that teams get out of making the playoffs is a confidence boost maybe a little bit more fan support and maybe the coach keeps his job that's about all the positive things I can think of.

Funny how you take the 1 thing that I may have been a little skewed on and run with it. There are so many positives for a team to make the playoffs. Of course if you have the warped opinion that the ONLY goal for any team is to win state, and if you can't, you shouldn't even bother, then you have a point.

 

[coach_jshelton]

How many six man schools actually make money? I could understand if another couple of teams rented the field for a playoff game but not many playoff games actually get played in a six man community. For obvious reasons such as places to eat and most teams want to play at a bigger field and fans would rather travel to the bigger towns with more things to do. The only thing I can see that teams get out of making the playoffs is a confidence boost maybe a little bit more fan support and maybe the coach keeps his job that's about all the positive things I can think of.

I'm paraphrasing here, but BE mentioned in another post that a good football season sets the tone for the entire school for the year - that cannot be measured in dollars. You're talking HS football - not college or pros where athletes are paid. There's value to athletics in the development of a HS kid as a person - good & bad. If the only value you see is a UIL medal or bust, you've obviously never coached & have no clue about the purpose of interscholastic athletics. As far as the coach keeping their job - I know very few that can't find another job if they lose the one they have.

 

[Caprock kid]

I understand what you are saying about athletics and how it helps young men & women not just in sports. But when you say UIL medal or bust as a coach you want to win right? You want to be able to accomplish something by placing that gold ball in the case right? Coaches are measured by how successful they are on the field or on the court. My point being it kinda is medal or bust when you are a coach. And no I'm not a coach well if you count little league baseball, but I am an ex player and now a fan so I'm just stating my own opinion.

 

[big show]

Every coach and every school measure succuess diffrently. Some teams come in with a win State mentalty other play it as their seasons go. Some teams are excited they are Bi District champs while some teams see it as just a stepping stone to where they want to be. There is alot of what ifs in sports but each team has its own path to get to state.

 

[tobyvann]

sounds to me like he wants to pick his 2 favorite teams before the season starts and just have a championship game.

 

[reddogblitz]

Any set in stone word on this yet?

 

[Shad Kline]

I understand what you are saying about athletics and how it helps young men & women not just in sports. But when you say UIL medal or bust as a coach you want to win right? You want to be able to accomplish something by placing that gold ball in the case right? Coaches are measured by how successful they are on the field or on the court. My point being it kinda is medal or bust when you are a coach. And no I'm not a coach well if you count little league baseball, but I am an ex player and now a fan so I'm just stating my own opinion.

Who says "medal or bust"? Been around the game a long time and never heard that term. Not once.....ever.

 

[Caprock kid]

It's a new term for the younger generation. #medal or bust

 

[coyote_king]

I've never heard the term either. All I ever wanted to do in highschool was win state. This game can be so frustrating sometimes. Caprock what years did you play?