freeagent
Six-man pro
cren22":10zc2aa1 said:
At least there's a silver lining ...
The end of football -- (serious article)
- Thread starter freeagent
- Start date
At least there's a silver lining ...
Dogface
Six-man fan
Hmmmmmmmmmm......... imagine that.cren22":1vcczbm9 said:
Conditioning with no weightroom?
Fast players?
20 years of successful seasons?
But wadda I know?
rainjacktx
Six-man fan
I caught just a little of Bryant Gumble's HBO sports magazine show the other night. They were doing a piece about some blood thinner drug that helps players recover faster.
I'm really short on the proper facts and my lack of short term memory prevents me from remembering names, so you might want to google the story if you want names, dates and phone numbers.
But anyhow, they were trying to link this particular drug, which has never been proven to contribute to brain injury, to the increase of brain injuries in the NFL. The ML for the Chicago Bears was interviewed, and he flat out said he could not afford to let the possibility of injury enter his mind. He also said that he would keep playing, and taking this drug regardless of the risks because a football player is who he is.
I think most elite level competitors share the same mindset, be it football, baseball, or any other sport. There is danger inherent in all sport at the highest level.
Is the rate of injury any higher now than 20 years ago in football? I doubt it. What I think is that technology has advanced to the point that we can see what effects different sports have on the human body at even the most minute levels. And all of a sudden we have a crisis.
I don't buy into it. I can see the wisdom in reducing contact in practice to a point, especially when you've seen a team decimated by injury due to the polar opposite philosophy.
I'm really short on the proper facts and my lack of short term memory prevents me from remembering names, so you might want to google the story if you want names, dates and phone numbers.
But anyhow, they were trying to link this particular drug, which has never been proven to contribute to brain injury, to the increase of brain injuries in the NFL. The ML for the Chicago Bears was interviewed, and he flat out said he could not afford to let the possibility of injury enter his mind. He also said that he would keep playing, and taking this drug regardless of the risks because a football player is who he is.
I think most elite level competitors share the same mindset, be it football, baseball, or any other sport. There is danger inherent in all sport at the highest level.
Is the rate of injury any higher now than 20 years ago in football? I doubt it. What I think is that technology has advanced to the point that we can see what effects different sports have on the human body at even the most minute levels. And all of a sudden we have a crisis.
I don't buy into it. I can see the wisdom in reducing contact in practice to a point, especially when you've seen a team decimated by injury due to the polar opposite philosophy.
freeagent
Six-man pro
Well, I must be a stinkin' clairyyoviant ...
San Diego area school district settles with a kid who received a head injury in a football game ... $4.4 million. Couple of keys from the article ... kid complained of a headache during the week and asked coach to take him out early in the game (coach didn't).
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... ead-injury
San Diego area school district settles with a kid who received a head injury in a football game ... $4.4 million. Couple of keys from the article ... kid complained of a headache during the week and asked coach to take him out early in the game (coach didn't).
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... ead-injury
lifegatesports":393gxo6k said:
It looks like more a case of coach/training staff negligence than a football related injury. No coach should ever have final say on if a player stays in the game or not. No one but a trained medical professional should ever decide if a player plays or not. The article said the kid had been having symptoms all week long and was not only allowed to, but forced to play in the game.
freeagent
Six-man pro
Friend, I'll agree the case could be made that there was some negligence on the part of the coaches and athletic training staff in this case. And the results, for everyone -- especially for the young man and his family -- is a case study on what not to do.
But I seriously wonder, especially among small private and public schools and home school groups, how many of us have certified athletic trainers and licensed medical personnel at every practice, much less every game?
I believe some states require that an certified athletic trainer be on hand at all contests. Well, if you don't have an athletic trainer on staff (which most small schools do not), you're gonna have to hire one of them starting at the junior high "B" basketball game all the way to varsity football. Heck, at Lifegate just doing a quick count in my head -- varsity and JH football (about 18-20 games), varsity and JH volleyball (another 35-40 games), girls and boys basketball -- again JH and varsity (add 60-80 games) and track (maybe 8-10 meets, tops). Okay, about half of those are road games, but what if the home team doesn't supply the trainer (or says they will until you get there and it's "oops, we forgot"). Do you cancel the game and go home?
I come up with 150 games (perhaps about 110-125 dates, since many of the basketball games are girls-then boys following). Let's say you can hire a trainer for $75 each occurence, you're still looking at something near $10,000 a year. And that doesn't cover travel, practices, or supplies/equipment. And I'd still have an EMS tech at football games.
I don't have an answer -- except that all coaches need to be trained in basic athletic first aid and concussion awareness, regardless of the sport.
And as I've repeated in the past -- I read something where NCAA says that, per capita, the most sports injuries occur in -- CHEERLEADING. And as I've also said, most padding I've seen added to a cheerleader outfit wasn't put there for safety purposes.
But I seriously wonder, especially among small private and public schools and home school groups, how many of us have certified athletic trainers and licensed medical personnel at every practice, much less every game?
I believe some states require that an certified athletic trainer be on hand at all contests. Well, if you don't have an athletic trainer on staff (which most small schools do not), you're gonna have to hire one of them starting at the junior high "B" basketball game all the way to varsity football. Heck, at Lifegate just doing a quick count in my head -- varsity and JH football (about 18-20 games), varsity and JH volleyball (another 35-40 games), girls and boys basketball -- again JH and varsity (add 60-80 games) and track (maybe 8-10 meets, tops). Okay, about half of those are road games, but what if the home team doesn't supply the trainer (or says they will until you get there and it's "oops, we forgot"). Do you cancel the game and go home?
I come up with 150 games (perhaps about 110-125 dates, since many of the basketball games are girls-then boys following). Let's say you can hire a trainer for $75 each occurence, you're still looking at something near $10,000 a year. And that doesn't cover travel, practices, or supplies/equipment. And I'd still have an EMS tech at football games.
I don't have an answer -- except that all coaches need to be trained in basic athletic first aid and concussion awareness, regardless of the sport.
And as I've repeated in the past -- I read something where NCAA says that, per capita, the most sports injuries occur in -- CHEERLEADING. And as I've also said, most padding I've seen added to a cheerleader outfit wasn't put there for safety purposes.
