My over simplified rankings after week 5

[Shad Kline]

DI
Rank School Rating
1 Ira 246.78
2 Borden County 241.34
3 Rankin 238.78
4 Throckmorton 235.87
5 Crowell 231.40
6 Water Valley 223.84
7 Valley 220.84
8 Garden City 213.28
9 Follett 212.47
10 Sands 209.84
11 Aspermont 207.72
12 Ropes 205.28
13 Spur 202.40
14 Aquilla 201.93
15 Petersburg 200.59
16 Meadow 198.59
17 Abbott 193.15
18 Zephyr 190.71
19 Fort Davis 183.86
20 May 178.25
21 Rochelle 176.86
22 O'Donnell 172.40
23 Bynum 168.47
24 Penelope 163.55
25 Grady 162.03
26 Knox City 159.84
27 Walnut Springs 159.15
28 Oakwood 158.42
29 Lometa 156.93
30 Gordon 156.28
31 Paducah 154.22
32 Avalon 148.15
33 Robert Lee 144.72
34 Blanket 142.49
35 Irving Universal Academy 141.21
36 Sierra Blanca 137.42
37 Klondike 135.09
38 Wellman-Union 135.02
39 Hermleigh 131.03
40 Leverett's Chapel 121.62
41 Chillicothe 121.15
42 McLean 118.70
43 Coolidge 118.55
44 Highland 115.47
45 Northside 111.59
46 Veribest 108.77
47 Kress 108.05
48 Evant 106.04
49 Eden 99.30
50 Santa Anna 98.01
51 Kopperl 96.63
52 Apple Springs 87.15
53 Lorenzo 86.81
54 Whiteface 80.22
55 Southland 77.59
56 Hart 76.96
57 Saint Jo 76.47
58 Prairie Lea 75.65
59 Chester 74.71
60 Paint Creek 70.46
61 Covington 57.01
62 Bloomburg 44.10
63 Gold-Burg 42.79
64 Waxahachie Advantage Academy 42.70
65 Lubbock Harmony 31.96

 

[Shad Kline]

DII

1 Richland Springs 248.72
2 Jonesboro 211.47
3 Newcastle 207.97
4 Sterling City 207.03
5 Milford 197.15
6 Motley County 186.40
7 Calvert 175.28
8 Grandfalls-Royalty 173.95
9 Miami 168.72
10 Balmorhea 165.04
11 Gustine 161.65
12 Strawn 161.06
13 Bryson 157.06
14 Loraine 155.44
15 Cherokee 154.71
16 Iredell 154.28
17 Guthrie 151.61
18 Amherst 151.60
19 Trinidad 151.42
20 Whitharral 149.09
21 Lefors 148.13
22 Groom 146.15
23 Darrouzett 144.21
24 Wilson 139.42
25 Trent 131.09
26 Panther Creek 125.62
27 Mullin 125.42
28 Sanderson 125.04
29 Paint Rock 124.01
30 Buckholts 123.85
31 Loop 122.59
32 Brookesmith 118.37
33 Harrold 116.59
34 Westbrook 115.46
35 Rising Star 113.42
36 Hedley 106.61
37 Silverton 106.05
38 Lueders-Avoca 104.80
39 Dawson 103.60
40 Buena Vista 103.34
41 Fannindel 103.13
42 Higgins 99.21
43 Cranfills Gap 98.93
44 Karnack 97.83
45 New Home 97.22
46 Forestburg 94.36
47 Happy 93.85
48 Jayton 90.02
49 Sidney 89.37
50 Lazbuddie 88.96
51 Lohn 88.01
52 Comanche Paradigm Charter 82.93
53 Woodson 81.55
54 Rule 74.75
55 Patton Springs 72.65
56 Benjamin 61.72
57 Morgan 59.22
58 Cotton Center 55.61
59 Novice 54.30
60 Blackwell 50.97
61 Moran 44.80
62 Oglesby 39.50
63 Star 33.52

 

[Shad Kline]

Top 100

Overall Division School Rating
1 1 Richland Springs 248.72
2 1 Ira 246.78
3 2 Borden County 241.34
4 3 Rankin 238.78
5 4 Throckmorton 235.87
6 1 Bulverde Bracken Christian 233.47
7 5 Crowell 231.40
8 6 Water Valley 223.84
9 7 Valley 220.84
10 1 Waco Live Oak 219.59
11 2 Austin Hill Country 216.46
12 8 Garden City 213.28
13 9 Follett 212.47
14 2 Jonesboro 211.47
15 10 Sands 209.84
16 3 Newcastle 207.97
17 11 Aspermont 207.72
18 4 Sterling City 207.03
19 12 Ropes 205.28
20 13 Spur 202.40
21 14 Aquilla 201.93
22 3 Dallas The Covenant 201.37
23 15 Petersburg 200.59
24 16 Meadow 198.59
25 5 Milford 197.15
26 4 Abilene Christian 194.22
27 17 Abbott 193.15
28 5 Kerrville Our Lady of the Hills 192.96
29 6 Temple Holy Trinity Catholic 192.52
30 18 Zephyr 190.71
31 6 Motley County 186.40
32 1 Fredericksburg Heritage 184.22
33 19 Fort Davis 183.86
34 7 Tomball Rosehill 183.28
35 2 Dickinson Pine Drive 180.59
36 3 Boerne Geneva 180.05
37 1 Lucas Christian 179.97
38 2 Azle Christian 179.48
39 20 May 178.25
40 Fort Hancock 177.22
41 21 Rochelle 176.86
42 7 Calvert 175.28
43 8 Grandfalls-Royalty 173.95
44 3 Arlington St. Paul Prep 173.22
45 22 O'Donnell 172.40
46 9 Miami 168.72
47 23 Bynum 168.47
48 4 Midland Trinity 167.86
49 10 Balmorhea 165.04
50 2 Bryan Allen Academy 164.52
51 Blum 164.47
52 24 Penelope 163.55
53 Anton 163.13
54 Houston Emery-Weiner 163.06
55 25 Grady 162.03
56 11 Gustine 161.65
57 8 Rockwall Heritage 161.25
58 12 Strawn 161.06
59 26 Knox City 159.84
60 27 Walnut Springs 159.15
61 28 Oakwood 158.42
62 13 Bryson 157.06
63 29 Lometa 156.93
64 30 Gordon 156.28
65 14 Loraine 155.44
66 3 Tomball Christian Homeschool 154.90
67 15 Cherokee 154.71
68 16 Iredell 154.28
69 31 Paducah 154.22
70 4 WF Notre Dame 152.72
71 5 SA Town East 152.05
72 6 Alvin Living Stones 151.69
73 17 Guthrie 151.61
74 18 Amherst 151.60
75 19 Trinidad 151.42
76 5 Arlington High Point Prep 149.34
77 20 Whitharral 149.09
78 9 Marble Falls Faith 148.95
79 4 San Marcos Homeschool 148.49
80 32 Avalon 148.15
81 21 Lefors 148.13
82 1 Bastrop Tribe Consolidated 147.85
83 6 Fort Worth Christian Life 147.22
84 Temple Centex Homeschool 147.15
85 22 Groom 146.15
86 33 Robert Lee 144.72
87 23 Darrouzett 144.21
88 7 Granbury Happy Hill 143.67
89 10 Kennedale Fellowship 143.33
90 5 SA FEAST Homeschool 142.84
91 34 Blanket 142.49
92 11 Sugar Land Logos Prep 141.69
93 12 Amarillo Holy Cross 141.67
94 35 Irving Universal Academy 141.21
95 2 Marshall Christian Academy 140.12
96 8 Denton Calvary 139.67
97 24 Wilson 139.42
98 7 Dallas Academy 138.51
99 13 EP Jesus Chapel 138.42
100 14 Watauga Harvest 138.34

 

[rainjacktx]

You have Crowell in front of Valley. Is your computer not aware that Valley beat Crowell just a couple of weeks ago? Now Valley is ranked11 points behind the team they bested by 16? Short memories and way too much weight given to the victory over MC.

 

[Shad Kline]

You have Crowell in front of Valley. Is your computer not aware that Valley beat Crowell just a couple of weeks ago? Now Valley is ranked11 points behind the team they bested by 16? Short memories and way too much weight given to the victory over MC.

My computer is completely aware of the Valley/Crowell results. It just doesn't care. Teams change throughout the season. Some get better, some get worse. Some may get better then worse. It is my understanding the MC had a key player out. So even though they dropped, they will more than likely come back up. Crowell will more than likely drop a few points in upcoming weeks and go back to where they should be. Its not a perfect system, none of them are. I was only 80% correct this week. What was yours?

 

[smokeyjoe53]

Maybe the 'puter is a little short on "Memory"?

 

[Texagg88]

I think it's extremly over simplified

Oakwood beats Milford by 9 then milford goes 1-2 the next 3 weeks, so based upon that Milford is ranked 36 spots ahead of Oakwood ...sounds logical

 

[rainjacktx]

You have Crowell in front of Valley. Is your computer not aware that Valley beat Crowell just a couple of weeks ago? Now Valley is ranked11 points behind the team they bested by 16? Short memories and way too much weight given to the victory over MC.

My computer is completely aware of the Valley/Crowell results. It just doesn't care. Teams change throughout the season. Some get better, some get worse. Some may get better then worse. It is my understanding the MC had a key player out. So even though they dropped, they will more than likely come back up. Crowell will more than likely drop a few points in upcoming weeks and go back to where they should be. Its not a perfect system, none of them are. I was only 80% correct this week. What was yours?

Teams can get that much better in two weeks? Or that much worse? Even after a head-to-head match up proving who the better team is?

Wow.

 

[smokeyjoe53]

I just love rankings and ranking systems. What would we argue about or make fun of if we didn't have them?
OBK, didn't the Romans used to debate who the best chariot drivers were. You remember that don't you?

 

[fajitapete]

you guys got to wait on mine- I just got in from the ranch and I got to take care of some stuff like putting up all the guns and ammo. I'll try to get my system running as soon as I can.

 

[SimplyPut]

You have Crowell in front of Valley. Is your computer not aware that Valley beat Crowell just a couple of weeks ago? Now Valley is ranked11 points behind the team they bested by 16? Short memories and way too much weight given to the victory over MC.

My computer is completely aware of the Valley/Crowell results. It just doesn't care. Teams change throughout the season. Some get better, some get worse. Some may get better then worse. It is my understanding the MC had a key player out. So even though they dropped, they will more than likely come back up. Crowell will more than likely drop a few points in upcoming weeks and go back to where they should be. Its not a perfect system, none of them are. I was only 80% correct this week. What was yours?

Teams can get that much better in two weeks? Or that much worse? Even after a head-to-head match up proving who the better team is?

Wow.

Rainjack, Would you say a 12 point win is close in a 6-man game? I would. How much did Valley beat Crowell by? It was 12 wasn't it? Wow!

I do see Valley ranked above Crowell, but if way too much weight was given to Crowell for the MC victory, Valley should fall some as well, correct?

 

[Shad Kline]

You have Crowell in front of Valley. Is your computer not aware that Valley beat Crowell just a couple of weeks ago? Now Valley is ranked11 points behind the team they bested by 16? Short memories and way too much weight given to the victory over MC.

My computer is completely aware of the Valley/Crowell results. It just doesn't care. Teams change throughout the season. Some get better, some get worse. Some may get better then worse. It is my understanding the MC had a key player out. So even though they dropped, they will more than likely come back up. Crowell will more than likely drop a few points in upcoming weeks and go back to where they should be. Its not a perfect system, none of them are. I was only 80% correct this week. What was yours?

Teams can get that much better in two weeks? Or that much worse? Even after a head-to-head match up proving who the better team is?

Wow.

I answered your question, answer mine. Do you actually read the entire post and put any thought into your posts? Crowells rating is high because MC had an injured player. I already said that. PAY ATTENTION.

To answer your next question, can a team get that much better or worse in 2 weeks? MC did. Why not? Injury, confidence, GRADES after next week....... All of these can affect how a team does against any given opponet. And that is in no way all inclusive, there are numerous factors which could affect the outcome of a game.

To address your last question I will provide you with an example which proves that a head to head match up does not always prove who the better team is. It only proves who the better team is at that moment in time. 2008, week 9, Strawn at Gordon. Gordon wins by 30. Same year, 4 weeks later, Strawn vs Gordon in playoffs, Strawn wins by 20+. By your "logic" Gordon had already proven they were the better team, so why even play? Just move Gordon on to the next round.

Not every state champ has a perfect 15-0 record, which means SOMEONE beat them at some point in the year, so they should have a lower rating than a team that beat them? But wait, the team that beat them lost to someone too, so the state champion that was 14-1, at best, should be 3rd? Gosh, I hope that nobody beat the team that beat the team that beat the state champion.

 

[SimplyPut]

2010 Water Valley 10-0

Week 5 Water Valley 52 Rankin 48
Bi-Dis...Rankin 60 Water Valley 44

 

[rainjacktx]

You have Crowell in front of Valley. Is your computer not aware that Valley beat Crowell just a couple of weeks ago? Now Valley is ranked11 points behind the team they bested by 16? Short memories and way too much weight given to the victory over MC.

My computer is completely aware of the Valley/Crowell results. It just doesn't care. Teams change throughout the season. Some get better, some get worse. Some may get better then worse. It is my understanding the MC had a key player out. So even though they dropped, they will more than likely come back up. Crowell will more than likely drop a few points in upcoming weeks and go back to where they should be. Its not a perfect system, none of them are. I was only 80% correct this week. What was yours?

Teams can get that much better in two weeks? Or that much worse? Even after a head-to-head match up proving who the better team is?

Wow.

Rainjack, Would you say a 12 point win is close in a 6-man game? I would. How much did Valley beat Crowell by? It was 12 wasn't it? Wow!

I do see Valley ranked above Crowell, but if way too much weight was given to Crowell for the MC victory, Valley should fall some as well, correct?

A win is a win. Crowell had their chance to prove they were better than Valley, but came up short. It's not like Valley just had a lucky night.

But to your suggestion that Valley should fall in the rankings - I'm really not that concerned. I just think there is a glaring fault in the system when Crowell can be ranked 11 power points ahead of a team that beat them by 14 or so just two weeks prior.

 

[TexasJim]

Just to make more fun.... Still 3 private schools in the top 11....

 

[rainjacktx]

I answered your question, answer mine. Do you actually read the entire post and put any thought into your posts? Crowells rating is high because MC had an injured player. I already said that. PAY ATTENTION.

To answer your next question, can a team get that much better or worse in 2 weeks? MC did. Why not? Injury, confidence, GRADES after next week....... All of these can affect how a team does against any given opponet. And that is in no way all inclusive, there are numerous factors which could affect the outcome of a game.

To address your last question I will provide you with an example which proves that a head to head match up does not always prove who the better team is. It only proves who the better team is at that moment in time. 2008, week 9, Strawn at Gordon. Gordon wins by 30. Same year, 4 weeks later, Strawn vs Gordon in playoffs, Strawn wins by 20+. By your "logic" Gordon had already proven they were the better team, so why even play? Just move Gordon on to the next round.

Not every state champ has a perfect 15-0 record, which means SOMEONE beat them at some point in the year, so they should have a lower rating than a team that beat them? But wait, the team that beat them lost to someone too, so the state champion that was 14-1, at best, should be 3rd? Gosh, I hope that nobody beat the team that beat the team that beat the state champion.

I read your reply, and it did not answer my question. Nor does your latest attempt. You are using absurd examples to try and duck my point. I understand if you just don't want to address it, but using such absurdities is more smoke and mirrors than any real attempt at an honest debate.

Your Strawn-Gordon example is particularly idiotic. What were they ranked? Were their records similar? Not a perfect example at all, unless you are trying to show an example of something that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation in the first place.

I'm gonna LOL when the state champion is ranked below 4 teams they've defeated earlier in the season.

 

[CowboyP]

Rainjack, do you ever think before you speak? You say someone else's post is absurd, yet you make guarantees you have no way of backing. I'm not saying valley won't make the finals. I'm just saying there is no guarantee of it. There are too many other good teams to be sure of anything.

 

[rainjacktx]

Rainjack, do you ever think before you speak? You say someone else's post is absurd, yet you make guarantees you have no way of backing. I'm not saying valley won't make the finals. I'm just saying there is no guarantee of it. There are too many other good teams to be sure of anything.

You have got to learn the difference between an honest discussion (this thread) and bragging (completely different thread). Using examples from the latter to make a point in the former doesn't work.

 

[Shad Kline]

I answered your question, answer mine. Do you actually read the entire post and put any thought into your posts? Crowells rating is high because MC had an injured player. I already said that. PAY ATTENTION.

To answer your next question, can a team get that much better or worse in 2 weeks? MC did. Why not? Injury, confidence, GRADES after next week....... All of these can affect how a team does against any given opponet. And that is in no way all inclusive, there are numerous factors which could affect the outcome of a game.

To address your last question I will provide you with an example which proves that a head to head match up does not always prove who the better team is. It only proves who the better team is at that moment in time. 2008, week 9, Strawn at Gordon. Gordon wins by 30. Same year, 4 weeks later, Strawn vs Gordon in playoffs, Strawn wins by 20+. By your "logic" Gordon had already proven they were the better team, so why even play? Just move Gordon on to the next round.

Not every state champ has a perfect 15-0 record, which means SOMEONE beat them at some point in the year, so they should have a lower rating than a team that beat them? But wait, the team that beat them lost to someone too, so the state champion that was 14-1, at best, should be 3rd? Gosh, I hope that nobody beat the team that beat the team that beat the state champion.

I read your reply, and it did not answer my question. Nor does your latest attempt. You are using absurd examples to try and duck my point. I understand if you just don't want to address it, but using such absurdities is more smoke and mirrors than any real attempt at an honest debate.

Your Strawn-Gordon example is particularly idiotic. What were they ranked? Were their records similar? Not a perfect example at all, unless you are trying to show an example of something that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation in the first place.

I'm gonna LOL when the state champion is ranked below 4 teams they've defeated earlier in the season.

I did answer your question. Crowell's rating is high because they 45'd a MC team with an injured player. PERIOD. That's the 3rd time I have said that. PAY ATTENTION!!

Now answer my question. What percentage of games did you get right with YOUR rating system?

Strawn was ranked higher than Gordon going into the second game that season. Both teams were 11-1 going into that quarter final game.

 

[CowboyP]

It worked well enough. It got you to admit to bragging. That was probably the first honest thing you've said in years. Congrats. Keep it up & others may actually start taking you seriously.