LadyWildKatsBball
11-man fan
I've heard several rumors of coaches looking. Just wondering who is leaving their post and where they are headed. All sports. Boys and girls.
Coaches on the move
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cozmo cramer
11-man fan
There was a U-haul topic that had open jobs and what coach took jobs.
A coach asked it to be deleted because he wanted privacy to tell his team.
So the thread was deleated.
Hope he has told his school and team by now.
So we'll never know who goes where until they start having their Labron James "I'm taking my coaching talents to" speech on the C-span channel.
A coach asked it to be deleted because he wanted privacy to tell his team.
So the thread was deleated.
Hope he has told his school and team by now.
So we'll never know who goes where until they start having their Labron James "I'm taking my coaching talents to" speech on the C-span channel.
LadyWildKatsBball
11-man fan
That's y I started this one. I searched for 20mins looking for that topic. But there a few jobs that are ok to post. Just curious where certain people land. Petersberg girls basketball coach left for pampa I believe.
theoldcoach.com has a U-haul list of 11 man coaches going to different places. They tend to be more open and not as secretive as the 6man brethern.
Some (not all) of the 6 man coaches get offended and try to keep it as secret as possible.
Thing I don't get is, a coach wants to keep it secret that he's leaving school A for school B.
School A has no idea the coach is looking.
School A gets a phone call from school B administration.
School A is taken off guard that our coach is unhappy and wanting to leave
School A administration and kids are DIS-RESPECTED.
Isn't it more RESPECTABLE for the coach to inform his PRIOR school that he is planning on testing the waters for open jobs.
Most 11 man coaches NEVER tell the previous schools kids that he will be taking another job.
I know I've never done it, I even spoke to the great Todd Dogde from Southlake Carroll at THSCA clinic, he even said he doesn't involve HS kids in any career changing decision.
He went on to say, Why break the young mens hearts with disappointment. You telling them to their face is actually saying, Look boys, I'm leaving you guys for ANOTHER SCHOOL.
Which means to those boys is, YOU AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH, I GOT TO FIND A BETTER PLACE WITH BETTER KIDS.
-No matter how you sugar coat it- that's how the boys are going to take it.
Unless if you go in there and say the Administration is not allowing me back, So I have to move on.....
I personally liked the 6 man uhaul link, It had what school were open and where coaches were going.
And I'm sure someone will get on here and say, WE WANT OUR PRIVACY RESPECTED....
Well RESECT is a 2 lane highway.....
RESPECT your previous administration and let them know there is a job at school B that I am interested in and I'm going to apply and I will keep you informed of any information between myself and school B.
Because it was the previous administration that gave you a job in the first place.
Anyways.... I'll get off my high step for now.
I've provided a link
https://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content. ... ID=1577332
Some (not all) of the 6 man coaches get offended and try to keep it as secret as possible.
Thing I don't get is, a coach wants to keep it secret that he's leaving school A for school B.
School A has no idea the coach is looking.
School A gets a phone call from school B administration.
School A is taken off guard that our coach is unhappy and wanting to leave
School A administration and kids are DIS-RESPECTED.
Isn't it more RESPECTABLE for the coach to inform his PRIOR school that he is planning on testing the waters for open jobs.
Most 11 man coaches NEVER tell the previous schools kids that he will be taking another job.
I know I've never done it, I even spoke to the great Todd Dogde from Southlake Carroll at THSCA clinic, he even said he doesn't involve HS kids in any career changing decision.
He went on to say, Why break the young mens hearts with disappointment. You telling them to their face is actually saying, Look boys, I'm leaving you guys for ANOTHER SCHOOL.
Which means to those boys is, YOU AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH, I GOT TO FIND A BETTER PLACE WITH BETTER KIDS.
-No matter how you sugar coat it- that's how the boys are going to take it.
Unless if you go in there and say the Administration is not allowing me back, So I have to move on.....
I personally liked the 6 man uhaul link, It had what school were open and where coaches were going.
And I'm sure someone will get on here and say, WE WANT OUR PRIVACY RESPECTED....
Well RESECT is a 2 lane highway.....
RESPECT your previous administration and let them know there is a job at school B that I am interested in and I'm going to apply and I will keep you informed of any information between myself and school B.
Because it was the previous administration that gave you a job in the first place.
Anyways.... I'll get off my high step for now.
I've provided a link
https://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content. ... ID=1577332
cozmo cramer
11-man fan
looks like ole man Kramer forgot his morning intake of laxatives and prune juice this morning.
Shad Kline
Six-man fan
I would have to say that I agree with Kramer. Why all the hush hush, just own it.
Privacy, lol.
Seriously, if you want full privacy, don't be a high school football coach.
Here is how to keep your privacy as a head football coach.
1) Be mindful of everything you say, to everybody. If what you have to say is boring an not newsworthy by the worst gossip in towns standards, it has a small chance of remaining private.
2) Don't have friends within a 100 mile radius. Having friends leads to having fun, if you have fun, it will become public.
3) Don't ever quit or get fired. When you do it becomes news, therefore no longer private.
4) Don't have kids, they talk. Wives too, usually.
5) Don't win or lose too many games, be right in the middle. If u win, you become news. If u lose, you become fired, therefore news.
Privacy, lol.
Seriously, if you want full privacy, don't be a high school football coach.
Here is how to keep your privacy as a head football coach.
1) Be mindful of everything you say, to everybody. If what you have to say is boring an not newsworthy by the worst gossip in towns standards, it has a small chance of remaining private.
2) Don't have friends within a 100 mile radius. Having friends leads to having fun, if you have fun, it will become public.
3) Don't ever quit or get fired. When you do it becomes news, therefore no longer private.
4) Don't have kids, they talk. Wives too, usually.
5) Don't win or lose too many games, be right in the middle. If u win, you become news. If u lose, you become fired, therefore news.
LadyWildKatsBball
11-man fan
I didn't know it was such a thing to keep secret. I agree own up to it. I recently been at a six man school and fell in love with the atheltic la of the size school. I've grown to respect certain coaches in my area. I thought what coach ritchey did with his young coyotes was amazing in my book. Coach Avery at Grady is a great basketball coach. If sat down and really watched you could learn something. And there are a few others as well. I just wanted to see who all was changing schools. I never meant to offend anyone. If you are moving on and don't mind posting please do so........
coachsatcher
Six-man fan
We don't all keep it secret. I resigned from Buckholts before I had another job in the bag. I knew I was going to have to move further north, so I thought it was in the best interest of the program to do it early, so they could find a great replacement. The administration, school board and kids all knew I was leaving. I wanted them to hear it from me and not from someone else. The day I found out I received the job from Mount Calm, I told my administration, school board, and then met with the students to let them know where I was going. Again, so they would hear it from me. I feel the deserved the explanation for buying into me and my program.
It wasn't the smartest thing, professionally, to resign without another job in hand; but I thought it was the right thing to do. Some people keep it quiet, because if they don't land another job, it's easier to slide back into your current job without everyone knowing you were trying to leave. Some people say it's sneaky, but it's no different than administrations talking with other coaches, while their coach I still under contract; just to see if they can improve. It's the same thing. Not everything gets played out in the media, and in 6-man, it's much easier to stay under the radar if you want to keep your moves quiet. It's not my style; but I can't look down on others for protecting their current job, while testing the waters. Testing the waters doesn't always mean you're leaving. But if you find out you're getting 20K less than everyone else, it gives you some information to take to your administration the next contract negotiation. You don't find that out unless you go out and ask.
It wasn't the smartest thing, professionally, to resign without another job in hand; but I thought it was the right thing to do. Some people keep it quiet, because if they don't land another job, it's easier to slide back into your current job without everyone knowing you were trying to leave. Some people say it's sneaky, but it's no different than administrations talking with other coaches, while their coach I still under contract; just to see if they can improve. It's the same thing. Not everything gets played out in the media, and in 6-man, it's much easier to stay under the radar if you want to keep your moves quiet. It's not my style; but I can't look down on others for protecting their current job, while testing the waters. Testing the waters doesn't always mean you're leaving. But if you find out you're getting 20K less than everyone else, it gives you some information to take to your administration the next contract negotiation. You don't find that out unless you go out and ask.
Coach Fryar
Six-man fan
I have seen many coaches move to other jobs for various reasons, have done it myself three times. I have witnessed coaches leaving the 'right' way and have witnessed coaches leaving the 'wrong' way. When a coach is in bad standing with the kids, staff, and community and change is welcomed, leaving isn't that big of a deal. When the kids, staff, and community want the coach to stay, but the coach chooses to go elsewhere, it gets tricky. When the kids want the coach to stay, but administration does not, it gets tricky. Here is what I have learned and this is what I practice...
If I send a resume and my administration may get a reference call, I tell my administration, NOT the kids. If I get an interview, I tell my administration, NOT the kids. If I get offered the job, I tell my administration, NOT the kids. When I have been school board approved at new school and have signed a contract, I tell the kids. I look them in the eye, tell them I love them and how awesome it has been to have the opportunity to coach them, then tell them to get back to work because THEY have unfinished goals ahead of THEM. When I leave, I leave completely. How can I pour 100% into my next group of kids, if I am hanging on to the old group? How can the old group pour 100% into the next year, if they are hanging on the past? It sucks, but it is what is best for the KIDS.
I DO NOT....'friend' everyone on Facebook so we can 'keep up' with each other, I DO NOT....bad mouth the school I am leaving (regardless of why) to the kids, this only hurts their chances of moving forward, they WILL be at that school the next year, I DO NOT....act like the school I am leaving didn't exist before I got there, nor will it be able to operate now that I am leaving, I DO NOT....do or say anything that could become a hindrance to the kids fully loving their school, just because it wasn't the right fit for me and/or my family at that particular time in my life.
Leaving this way, IMHO, is the best way for kids to move forward. If it's "all about the kids", then I believe this is right. I have had to deal with anger, hate, being called a liar from kids that I love and would do anything for, even disappear out of their lives for a while at the height of our relationship. It's not fun for me, it's not fun for the kids. But when and if I coach against an old group of kids and they have a look in their eye that they are going to try to kick my team's butt, I know I did the right thing for the kids and their new coach. When it is obvious they have moved on, then I get the opportunity to renew those relationships, in the right setting, and hopefully those relationships will be lifelong.
If I send a resume and my administration may get a reference call, I tell my administration, NOT the kids. If I get an interview, I tell my administration, NOT the kids. If I get offered the job, I tell my administration, NOT the kids. When I have been school board approved at new school and have signed a contract, I tell the kids. I look them in the eye, tell them I love them and how awesome it has been to have the opportunity to coach them, then tell them to get back to work because THEY have unfinished goals ahead of THEM. When I leave, I leave completely. How can I pour 100% into my next group of kids, if I am hanging on to the old group? How can the old group pour 100% into the next year, if they are hanging on the past? It sucks, but it is what is best for the KIDS.
I DO NOT....'friend' everyone on Facebook so we can 'keep up' with each other, I DO NOT....bad mouth the school I am leaving (regardless of why) to the kids, this only hurts their chances of moving forward, they WILL be at that school the next year, I DO NOT....act like the school I am leaving didn't exist before I got there, nor will it be able to operate now that I am leaving, I DO NOT....do or say anything that could become a hindrance to the kids fully loving their school, just because it wasn't the right fit for me and/or my family at that particular time in my life.
Leaving this way, IMHO, is the best way for kids to move forward. If it's "all about the kids", then I believe this is right. I have had to deal with anger, hate, being called a liar from kids that I love and would do anything for, even disappear out of their lives for a while at the height of our relationship. It's not fun for me, it's not fun for the kids. But when and if I coach against an old group of kids and they have a look in their eye that they are going to try to kick my team's butt, I know I did the right thing for the kids and their new coach. When it is obvious they have moved on, then I get the opportunity to renew those relationships, in the right setting, and hopefully those relationships will be lifelong.
EagleNation
11-man fan
I have decided to accept the position at Clovis Christian School in Clovis, NM. I’m going to be the Assistant Secondary Principal/Athletic Director & Head Football Coach.
Make decisions on fact and principle not emotions and feelings.
Thoughts on Admin- I was once told by my offensive coordinator in college that don’t think for a minute that a school wouldn’t and couldn’t replace you for a second. Saying that if Bill Parcels walked in our President of the school’s office at a small NAIA, and said I want to be the head coach or offensive coordinator they would hire him on the spot.
Once heard this, that there are 2 types of coaches.
One that gets fired and one that is going to get fired. At the end of the day YOU must do what is best for your family.
Thoughts on kids- At the end of the day, the student-athletes are the ones that get hurt. I love those kids and will miss them EVERY single student at Fulton that we’ve impact in the last 4 years. Coaches come and go. Athletes come and go too.
Reasons people leave(my viewpoints)-
1. God calling them elsewhere. 2. Family 3. Money 4. Administrative
Leaving Fulton was one of the toughest decisions for me and my family. Fulton was a place I called home for four years and a place we will miss. Clovis is my NEW home now. God has blessed us so much!! I still pray for Fulton and CCS every day. My son took his first step there on that campus.
I want to take the time and thank everyone single coach that I have come to know in the past (4 years @Fulton) and (7 years overall. Glenview, ChristWay, & Fellowship). From good veterans like Uland, Huckabee, Shipman, and Willis. To the new ones like Emerson, Sanders, and Tarbutton. I LOVE 6MAN FOOTBALL. I recall telling my head coach after losing to FREDDY in 2007; after college ball and after a year playing arena football, that I don’t want to coach 6man anymore. Little did I really know back then, but I came to love this game and don’t plan on leaving anytime soon.
[b Great Memory: 122 Oakwood @ Fulton 103 [/b] What a shootout!! A part of history I'm taking West.
A special thanks to Coach Kevin Harris, Jesse Erhart, and Brian Peters for giving me the opportunities that have opened up so many doors.
Thanks,
Josh Johnson, M.Ed
Make decisions on fact and principle not emotions and feelings.
Thoughts on Admin- I was once told by my offensive coordinator in college that don’t think for a minute that a school wouldn’t and couldn’t replace you for a second. Saying that if Bill Parcels walked in our President of the school’s office at a small NAIA, and said I want to be the head coach or offensive coordinator they would hire him on the spot.
Once heard this, that there are 2 types of coaches.
One that gets fired and one that is going to get fired. At the end of the day YOU must do what is best for your family.
Thoughts on kids- At the end of the day, the student-athletes are the ones that get hurt. I love those kids and will miss them EVERY single student at Fulton that we’ve impact in the last 4 years. Coaches come and go. Athletes come and go too.
Reasons people leave(my viewpoints)-
1. God calling them elsewhere. 2. Family 3. Money 4. Administrative
Leaving Fulton was one of the toughest decisions for me and my family. Fulton was a place I called home for four years and a place we will miss. Clovis is my NEW home now. God has blessed us so much!! I still pray for Fulton and CCS every day. My son took his first step there on that campus.
I want to take the time and thank everyone single coach that I have come to know in the past (4 years @Fulton) and (7 years overall. Glenview, ChristWay, & Fellowship). From good veterans like Uland, Huckabee, Shipman, and Willis. To the new ones like Emerson, Sanders, and Tarbutton. I LOVE 6MAN FOOTBALL. I recall telling my head coach after losing to FREDDY in 2007; after college ball and after a year playing arena football, that I don’t want to coach 6man anymore. Little did I really know back then, but I came to love this game and don’t plan on leaving anytime soon.
[b Great Memory: 122 Oakwood @ Fulton 103 [/b] What a shootout!! A part of history I'm taking West.
A special thanks to Coach Kevin Harris, Jesse Erhart, and Brian Peters for giving me the opportunities that have opened up so many doors.
Thanks,
Josh Johnson, M.Ed
coach ball
Six-man fan
who took the head football job at Roscoe Highland???