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Mexican Englishman

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How is a team that gets beat 85-0 in the playoffs? Please I beg the people in charge to do away with the two divisions and bring us at least 8 team districts. I wouldn't be opposed to 10 team. Make every game count. We as fans deserve better. Am I the only one that feels this way?
 
Not even close to a record. Obviously you haven't seen what many 11 man districts have put in the playoffs or even TCAL last year. 1-9 Killeen Memorial made it last year. But in 11 man houston has send 1-9 teams several times because of 5 team districts. One year an 0-10 team made it because they had 4 teams in the district...
 
As a fan I would love to see one division. Best on best and make these games count. District championships would actually mean something and playoffs would actually be competitive. Just imagine, the east playoff bracket would be Strawn,Milford, Iredell, Oakwood, Union Hill, Coolidge, Richland springs,Calvert, Jonesboro and Evant all fighting just represent the east in the State game. On the west you’d have McLean, GC, SC, BC, Happy, Balmorhea, Blackwell, whitedeer, Follet, Ira all fighting for the west championship. Every play off game would be huge, and we could crown one true 1A champion. But we live in a place where everyone gets a trophy.
 
1. no this isn't a record (112-0 Milford beat a Ft Worth private school in 1993 at halftime)
2. this happens every once in a while, high 70s and in the 80s to 0 happens and it is due to the drastic disparity between top tier and bottom tier teams
3. Scores like this dont always mean the team was terrible...after all Trinidad did beat every other team in their district and thus an obvious playoff team
4. I personally hope they never expand the playoffs to include more than 2 teams from a district in 1A or you get like War is saying and 1-9 or 0-10 teams making the playoffs
5. going back to one division isnt a bad idea, but UIL love the 2 divisions and so do many coaches in teh association so I dont see it going back to the old way
6. If the 11man schools that could be playing 6man would then then it would increase the size of a few districts
 
In most games like this the winner has a lot of 1 play touchdown drives and likely a defensive TD or 2 or a KO return for a TD or 2...so it isn't like they are necessarily pouring it on trying to run up the score. I think most would be shocked to see the game stats for Oakwood from this game
 
And then have the 2A play the 6A to get the real true champion!! lol
Insider and mexican englishman , you can whip this horse all you want, but he's not going to move!
 
**Other comments were made as I was putting together my post which is some feedback I was looking for**

Can someone list the pros and cons of 1A doing something similar to 2A and up when it comes to district realignment and the postseason.
Assuming districts would have about 6 or more teams and 4 teams out of each district would qualify for the postseason.

I’ll mention obvious pros and cons, but I encourage others to put in their input as I am only a fan, so I would not list other concerns that coaches or administrators may have.

Obviously, a major concern would be the smaller schools of 1A D2 getting put into a district with the bigger schools of 1A D1.
Another problem the UIL may face is trying to realign so many teams between D1 & D2.
I’m sure a pro of this would be that travel times for some schools may be better when it comes to district.
Another pro may be that it wouldn’t be so difficult for coaches to schedule games in their non district portion of the schedule.
 
Oakwood Rushing - 12/186/8 TD
Oakwood Passing - 2/6/35/2 TD

18 offensive plays, 221 yards of total offense, 10 offensive TDs scored

No single player had more than 66 yards of total offense

Was told Trinidad never punted either

Oakwood scored 2 defensive TDs on fumble recoveries and returns
 
This happened with Strawn last night as well. First 5 offensive play's were 1 play "drives" for a TD. Actually I've seen or listened to multiple similar occurrences out of this team in the last 2 years. Though many were in the 60's or 50's due to playing soph's and freshmen in the 2nd quarter. RS had a lot of those type games over the last several years. It's good to see a team roll into the playoff's. If I read the bracket's right we could see Strawn and Oakwood in the semi. Though that's putting the cart before the horse. Iredell or another team might have something to say about it.
 
So UIL does the same thing from 2A to 5A the only division not divided into small division big division is 6A. They found that research showed that very good teams with larger enrollments would beat just as great of teams with much smaller enrollments due to shear numbers of kids. As a coach, it is ridiculous to expect a school like 11 man
Cameron Yoe who won 3 or 4 straight titles in 3A and has 400 kids to play say Allen that has 7000 kids to choose from in 6A but has had the same type of success as Cameron. Just like it would be idiotic to tell Richland Springs 8 time state champs in 6 man, and what 170 kids maybe to suit up to play Katy high with their 6000 kids because they are not "truly champs" until there is "one champion".... TAPPS even makes it more fair for smaller schools as they have 3 divisions schools that have less than 80 kids total play D3, team with 80-115 play D2, and 115 and up play D1. They alsoon the downside leave it up to the schools to decide if they want to play 11 man or 6 man football. So in D1 you have Emry Weiner that has about 500 kids playing schools like Round Rock Christian that have 120 kids instead of making Emry play 11 man. On the flip side you have a team like CTCS that has about 125 kids playing 11 man against teams like texas school for the deaf that has 400 to 500 kids too... Back to my point, the divisions are proven by research and the best teams rise to the top and still make it. I have also seen my share of upsets too... a few years ago in TAIAO Centex Homeschool had been favored to make it back to their state title game, but was 45'd by Crosby Victory and Praise who had been 45'd the week before and had a 4-6 or 3-7 record... Another example in TAPPS last year D2, Waco Live Oak started 0-6 and was 45'd by a few teams, ended the regular season 4-6, then won every playoff game and finished state champs and 8-6 overall....
 
MilfordInsider":31644lq7 said:
As a fan I would love to see one division. Best on best and make these games count. District championships would actually mean something and playoffs would actually be competitive. Just imagine, the east playoff bracket would be Strawn,Milford, Iredell, Oakwood, Union Hill, Coolidge, Richland springs,Calvert, Jonesboro and Evant all fighting just represent the east in the State game. On the west you’d have McLean, GC, SC, BC, Happy, Balmorhea, Blackwell, whitedeer, Follet, Ira all fighting for the west championship. Every play off game would be huge, and we could crown one true 1A champion. But we live in a place where everyone gets a trophy.
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Totally agree Insider. (Except you left Aquilla out of your East bracket.) It is time for a change. And please don't bring up the enrollment numbers argument. I watched Richland JV vs Aquilla JV this year. Richland had 12 players, Aquilla had 6. Compare their enrollments. Besides how many D1 and D2 schools play each other in the preseason? If it was such a one sided difference, this would not be happening. Make Six-Man Football Great Again!
 
Mexican Englishman":7l3zvcwf said:
MilfordInsider":7l3zvcwf said:
As a fan I would love to see one division. Best on best and make these games count. District championships would actually mean something and playoffs would actually be competitive. Just imagine, the east playoff bracket would be Strawn,Milford, Iredell, Oakwood, Union Hill, Coolidge, Richland springs,Calvert, Jonesboro and Evant all fighting just represent the east in the State game. On the west you’d have McLean, GC, SC, BC, Happy, Balmorhea, Blackwell, whitedeer, Follet, Ira all fighting for the west championship. Every play off game would be huge, and we could crown one true 1A champion. But we live in a place where everyone gets a trophy.
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Totally agree Insider. (Except you left Aquilla out of your East bracket.) It is time for a change. And please don't bring up the enrollment numbers argument. I watched Richland JV vs Aquilla JV this year. Richland had 12 players, Aquilla had 6. Compare their enrollments. Besides how many D1 and D2 schools play each other in the preseason? If it was such a one sided difference, this would not be happening. Make Six-Man Football Great Again!
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So what about JV? A lot of small D2 schools can barely get 6 kids and when 1 or 2 get hurt, that is the end of the season for them. Also D1 and D2 play each other in the preseason/ non district yes, but it is exactly that non district. If they stuck to only playing in their division for non district they'd be playing everyone twice come playoff time. It is proven research about the enrollments. Go take your 6 jv kids and play a varsity schedule... it won't go well when you play teams that have over 20. JV doesn't matter. It is there to help lesser kids get playing time. I know a lot of schools that have a every body plays rule for JV so Richland having 12 they may have had to play them all. So having 6 on a jv is an advantage. Although personally the coach is a fool for only putting 6 on JV. Varsity plays to win and a coach is let go if they don't, so competing on a level playong field by dividing due to enrollment is a must. No one cares if a JV wins or loses. An example is the old Victory Life Academy in Brownwood, they were TAPPS D3 with 50 kids in their school and competed with other like schools as they had 7 or 8 kids total for football. Their last TAPPS reallignment TAPPS got rid of D3 making them have to play in a D2 district with the likes of Live Oak that had 30 kids on their team, NCTA that had 26 kids, Holy Trinity that had 20, and Weatherford that had 25 or so. They were brutalized every game and finished some of those games with 5 kids on the field, and their games didn't go past halftime. They could not continue even if they were not already mercy ruled. Enrollment totally matters. Like I said before go take any 1A school and go play Allen if you don't think enrollment matters... Tell me how that works out.... also in the 11 man game, why do you think most 6A schools do not play any lower than 5A or and lower classes do not play any schools more than one class higher? Because they know it is a numbers game and the smaller school will get murdered if they play any one larger that that. There was a small 2A school one year that scheduled a historically bad 5A team because they had beaten every 2A school by 60 or more and won state with ease, and that happened to be the 5A school's only win. The 2A school didn't lose to anyone and won state again. Scoring 60 or more vs schools their size.
 
By your argument you are saying D2 schools stand no chance against D1 schools. Enrollment figures are not as much of a factor in sixman schools as opposed to eleven man schools. You can't compare eleven man and sixman. Different game. We need one division where making the playoffs actually means something.
 

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