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Dogface
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 Re: weights for lifting
High Plains Drifter wrote: but back in the day... Ha Hmmmm... So... were these weights like, carved from stone, like on the Flintstones?
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| Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:41 pm |
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High Plains Drifter
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Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:01 am Posts: 566 Location: texas
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 Re: weights for lifting
yes, sir
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| Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:43 pm |
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Dogface
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I can imagine all those Atown boys lookin like Alley Oop. That guy was huge!
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| Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:42 pm |
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High Plains Drifter
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 Re: weights for lifting
But could he run?
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| Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:26 pm |
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Coach Buse
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Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:36 pm Posts: 19 Location: Dickinson, Tx
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Here is the problem some kids do need size. If you have a small team the problem comes in when you have to play teams that are bigger than you and you can't gang tackle every time. On that not you need to take your offseason to the weight room get some meat on the bones and teach them how to eat properly to get the right weight and not fat. That is what the offseason is for to take that time to build on things you lack in. Then you can thow crossfit in the mix. But if you have a team that is big already just some good old country boys raised on the farm and eating a cow and a bushel of potatoes a weak then crossfit will work good for you. In that you are cutting fat and building the muscle but you also have to throw in the speed drills on both ways that you go. In 6-man footwork is the key to speed and quickness that seperates teams.
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| Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:48 pm |
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Dogface
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 Re: weights for lifting
Actually, that's quite a large list.
We started off with just a guy begging for some weights for the infant stages of a program.
You suggest, that you need some big guys, and they must eat right, and they must have good footwork, and be fast and quick.
Pretty sure he'll need more than just a few weights for that. jus sayin'
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| Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:18 pm |
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Dogface
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 Re: weights for lifting
High Plains Drifter wrote: But could he run? So which one is it? Big guys or fast guys? or Both?
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| Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:21 pm |
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Coach Buse
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They don't have to be huge, just need a little weight. Lets say that you have a team and you average 160lbs for your players, you are going to do really good against a team that averages 130lbs. That is what I am talking about putting in the work in the offseason to get there if you already have it and it came natural to you then you don't have to spend as much time in the weight room. You don't have to have kids that are 195 plus but would help you to have kids that average the bigger teams. I say footwork because there is a difference between speed and quickness, that is why I love ladder drills and cone work trust me it helps.
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CowboyP
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I've seen that proven. My son is not fast by any definition, but Coach Hinkson has trained him to be quick from his stance and to read the play.
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| Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:54 am |
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Dogface
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 Re: weights for lifting
Coach Buse wrote: They don't have to be huge, just need a little weight. Lets say that you have a team and you average 160lbs for your players, you are going to do really good against a team that averages 130lbs. That is what I am talking about putting in the work in the offseason to get there if you already have it and it came natural to you then you don't have to spend as much time in the weight room. You don't have to have kids that are 195 plus but would help you to have kids that average the bigger teams. I say footwork because there is a difference between speed and quickness, that is why I love ladder drills and cone work trust me it helps. Thank you!
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| Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:16 am |
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Dogface
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 Re: weights for lifting
Dogface wrote: Coach Buse wrote: They don't have to be huge, just need a little weight. Lets say that you have a team and you average 160lbs for your players, you are going to do really good against a team that averages 130lbs. That is what I am talking about putting in the work in the offseason to get there if you already have it and it came natural to you then you don't have to spend as much time in the weight room. You don't have to have kids that are 195 plus but would help you to have kids that average the bigger teams. I say footwork because there is a difference between speed and quickness, that is why I love ladder drills and cone work trust me it helps. Thank you! Plus, and I know we have no way of controlling this, but we are talking about 6man, If I did have a team of 160# players, and 4 of them (heck even 2 of them) ran a sub 4.5 sec. 40 I wouldn't care how big your guys were. In fact, I would prefer playing all your olympic powerlifters. I would fear your ranch boys who bring in the hay all summer.
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| Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:24 am |
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CoachJackson1
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Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:01 am Posts: 38 Location: Floyds Pool Hall
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 Re: weights for lifting
Dont confuse track fast with football fast dog; or you might be scratching your head wondering why you are losing
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| Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:22 am |
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rainjacktx
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Joined: Fri Sep 27, 2002 1:01 am Posts: 1559 Location: Canyon
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 Re: weights for lifting
There's no talking to dogface when he gets on his weight training - conditioning rants.
He thinks the answer to every question is to buy a Susan Powter video and Jane Fonda lycra tights.
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| Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:15 am |
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Dogface
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 Re: weights for lifting
CoachJackson1 wrote: Dont confuse track fast with football fast dog; or you might be scratching your head wondering why you are losing I guess this is another area where some folks could make it harder than it needs to be. Dopey me. I thought fast was just fast.
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| Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:43 pm |
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rainjacktx
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Dogface wrote: CoachJackson1 wrote: Dont confuse track fast with football fast dog; or you might be scratching your head wondering why you are losing I guess this is another area where some folks could make it harder than it needs to be. Dopey me. I thought fast was just fast. Fast does not, and never has, equal quick. Learn the difference, lycra-boy.
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| Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:44 pm |
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