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JSwann
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Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:28 pm Posts: 9 Location: Clovis, NM
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 What happened to Whit?
When I was in high school we played Whitharral my junior year (2001) and they were dominant. Just looked over some scores from the last couple years and wow. What happened to them?
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| Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:58 pm |
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Stripes
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Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:23 pm Posts: 86
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 Re: What happened to Whit?
It's hard to get a dynasty run going in six-man football when you're at the mercy of district realignment and the kids that go to your school system. Sometimes you get a great run of good kids, maybe even a family with a number of boys in a row that really add to your program. Other times the coaches just have to do their best with the talent they are given to try to coach them up to the best of their natural ability and remember that it's not all about winning and losing on the field but teaching the players to be better men when the graduate.
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:51 am |
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Dogface
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Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:49 pm Posts: 2282 Location: Part of the fun is the not knowing.
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[quote="Stripes"]It's hard to get a dynasty run going in six-man football when you're at the mercy of district realignment and the kids that go to your school system. Sometimes you get a great run of good kids, maybe even a family with a number of boys in a row that really add to your program. Other times the coaches just have to do their best with the talent they are given to try to coach them up to the best of their natural ability and remember that it's not all about winning and losing on the field but teaching the players to be better men when the graduate.[/quote] Well said. Why don't more real coaches actually coach that way?
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:25 am |
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Stripes
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Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:23 pm Posts: 86
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 Re: What happened to Whit?
Unfortunately, administrators and school boards often don't look at the quality of the young men as they leave the program. That's impossible to measure with numbers. Wins and losses, however, can be measured instantly.
It's a fine line for coaches to walk.
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:32 am |
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Dogface
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 Re: What happened to Whit?
Stripes wrote: Unfortunately, administrators and school boards often don't look at the quality of the young men as they leave the program. That's impossible to measure with numbers. Wins and losses, however, can be measured instantly.
It's a fine line for coaches to walk. Not measurable? Sure it is. If a FB star goes out after HS and gets into trouble, then he didn't learn anything from FB. FB, the way it was done, added no real value to his life. If he goes out and starts a business or graduates from college then it did. Simple.
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:41 am |
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rainjacktx
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Joined: Fri Sep 27, 2002 1:01 am Posts: 1559 Location: Canyon
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 Re: What happened to Whit?
Dogface wrote: Stripes wrote: Unfortunately, administrators and school boards often don't look at the quality of the young men as they leave the program. That's impossible to measure with numbers. Wins and losses, however, can be measured instantly.
It's a fine line for coaches to walk. Not measurable? Sure it is. If a FB star goes out after HS and gets into trouble, then he didn't learn anything from FB. FB, the way it was done, added no real value to his life. If he goes out and starts a business or graduates from college then it did. Simple. I think you're wrong. It's an individual responsibility - not some mystical power imbued upon a kid by football coach. I would rank football somewhere behind God, family, and personal responsibility.
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:47 am |
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Dogface
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rainjacktx wrote: Dogface wrote: Stripes wrote: Unfortunately, administrators and school boards often don't look at the quality of the young men as they leave the program. That's impossible to measure with numbers. Wins and losses, however, can be measured instantly.
It's a fine line for coaches to walk. Not measurable? Sure it is. If a FB star goes out after HS and gets into trouble, then he didn't learn anything from FB. FB, the way it was done, added no real value to his life. If he goes out and starts a business or graduates from college then it did. Simple. I think you're wrong. It's an individual responsibility - not some mystical power imbued upon a kid by football coach. I would rank football somewhere behind God, family, and personal responsibility. True enough. Nothing mystical about football. I rank it a little further back myself! And, I didn't mean to put the whole burden on the coach for some teenage boy's actions. I just struggle with a personal coaching philosophy that flies in the face of current trends. While winning is most assuredly more FUN, it's rarely, IMHO, the BEST measure of success. Just one of many to choose from. Just like school, in general, is just one tool used to develope a student's strong sense of personal responsibility. (I hope that made more sense.)
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:03 am |
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Stripes
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Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:23 pm Posts: 86
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 Re: What happened to Whit?
Bringing it back to Whitharral, I've always enjoyed Coach Avery's teams when I've encountered them and found them to be good young men being taught to do things the right way.
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:04 am |
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Dogface
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Good Point. I wish them well in the future!
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:09 am |
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phenom
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Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:27 am Posts: 27
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 Re: What happened to Whit?
the boys spend more time in the basketball gym than on the football field. thats ok we got a group of jr boys that range in height from a 6'6" a couple of 6'3"s and a couple of 6'1"s and a 5'6". maybe we traded cleats for hightops?
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:06 pm |
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rainjacktx
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Joined: Fri Sep 27, 2002 1:01 am Posts: 1559 Location: Canyon
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 Re: What happened to Whit?
phenom wrote: the boys spend more time in the basketball gym than on the football field. thats ok we got a group of jr boys that range in height from a 6'6" a couple of 6'3"s and a couple of 6'1"s and a 5'6". maybe we traded cleats for hightops? Your girls hoops ain't too shabby, either.
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:14 pm |
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Johnny Cash
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Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:30 am Posts: 25 Location: Pease River Breaks
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 Re: What happened to Whit?
Stripes wrote: Other times the coaches just have to do their best with the talent they are given Yeah, I've heard that crap from coaches before, and I've seen good athletic young men who had the desire to be successful on the football field denied that opportunity because of the incompetence of adults involved.
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:12 pm |
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CowboyP
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Johnny Cash wrote: Stripes wrote: Other times the coaches just have to do their best with the talent they are given Yeah, I've heard that crap from coaches before, and I've seen good athletic young men who had the desire to be successful on the football field denied that opportunity because of the incompetence of adults involved. There may be some coaches that try to blame their incompotence on lack of talent, but the majority of the time it is a lack of talent. There are many kids with the desire to be great, but few have the ability to be.
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:38 pm |
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Johnny Cash
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Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:30 am Posts: 25 Location: Pease River Breaks
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 Re: What happened to Whit?
I'm not talking about GREAT, I'm just talking about being competetive! Like blocking, tackling, going to the whistle, giving effort every play, having a positive mindset, being prepared, being a team player, doing your best no matter what your opponent or team-mate is doing, digging in root hog or die! NOT "well our boys did good, they played hard" on Friday night when all they have been made to do is JACK on the practice field all week. Then going "ofer" for the season when they could have been much, much, better.....
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:06 pm |
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Johnny Cash
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Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:30 am Posts: 25 Location: Pease River Breaks
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 Re: What happened to Whit?
CowboyP wrote: There are many kids with the desire to be great, but few have the ability to be. Thats just straight up B.S. right there. Granted not all are gifted in the way of a Dwayne Miles or a T.E., but are you telling me a bunch of hard working farm and ranch kids that go 5-5 and have been made to work hard and have been pushed and gave their absolute best game after game are not just as worthy as those who are more athletically gifted? How about those kids who went 0-10, was it their fault?
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:29 pm |
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