Let's agree to disagree
some more!

After looking at several scores
couldn't help but notice so many 45+
to nothings.
Are there really that many coaches
who get off on rubbing their opponents nose in it
instead of letting everyone play
when they get a big lead?

Or

Are there that many teams
that are so weak that
even the third string can run all over them?

our varsity only has 8 players,, who is the 3rd string?, one thing iv learned in 6 man you have to be mentally tough at all times or you get hurt

Or maybe (just maybe) the GOOD team doing the 45ing had a JV unit (8 players) that played on a Thursday night in a very close and competitive game.
Then on Friday, the GOOD teams Varsity has only 9 bodies and ALL 9 are all good football players and they go out and 45 their opponent....

Example:
Thursday Night
Pine Drive JV 46 - Emery Weiner JV 40 : game lasted 2 hours with 8 players on PD Side...
Friday Night
Pine Drive 54 - West Columbia 0 : PD had 8 fresh varsity players, but played 14 (some JV)...


Also,
Prolonged a game during wk 0 (which should've/could've) ended at half. I let the game go longer than it should've and got one kid SEVERELY injured (knee)...Out for at-least 4 weeks....
SO MY MOTTO IS NOW, FINISH EARLY IF WE CAN.....SO STUPID INJURIES THAT A COACH CAN LIMIT LIKE THIS WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

It's a no win situation.... If ya 45 them early, either the other team is mad, OR someone on this message board is mad OR you will have your own parents mad at you cause their son didn't play enough.....
It's still a win, but now you got momma/daddy mad at ya....

If you don't have large #'s (10 or less) and you can 45 an opponent, that's great because you're not wearing your players out playing 4 full qtrs...
I know I want my kids FRESH and that may call for ending games early...


Just my ramblings for this Sunday Morning....

Good point!!

Seriously, part of the issue ... especially among private schools ... is the new schools that have been coming in like wildfire the past several years.

Look at this week ... about 120 games, and of those 65 involved a private school. You probably have a dozen or more new schools this year or folks resuming a program after a year off. It really takes about two or three years of play to figure out what you need to do ...including off-season conditioning to be competitive in six-man football.

Also, it's easy to have a close game turn into a blowout. Last Friday, our game was 15-12 late in the first quarter. Next time I look up, it's 47-12 and halftime.

Another factor is numbers. Eight or ten kids, and chances are a couple of them are there because their pals are on the team not really their own "first choice," are always gonna have a problem when the opponent comes in with 15 kids or more.

Great replies all!!!
I'm not judging,
just asking.

I've only had one opportunity
to make such a decision.
When asking the boys
if we should go the distance with non-starters,
3 boys said let's finish 'em now,
cuz we got homework!
Being a student-centered coach,
I went with that.

When we played 137 years ago we rarely 45d anyone even though we had the chance to do it many times. In my 4 years of high school we had EXACTLY 2 JV games. This meant that we had a lot of players that would not of gotten any play time if they did not get to play in the blowouts the varsity had. This helped build younger players for the following years.

Now that there are so many JV games those players get the build time on Thursdays.

I have thought about this: You have a top team, very strong. You go through most of the season winning by 45 at the half. You then go into the playoffs and you have to play a whole game. Does this not put you at a disadvantage as the boys are not used to playing 4 quarters? I know, you have to condition them at practice so they can go the full 4 but not playing it is different. We won a lot of games at Gordon back in the day because Campbell got us trained to go as hard int he 4th as we did in the 1st. 4th would roll around and the score would be close and we would run away with the game as the other team got tired. We hated doing it in practice but loved winning those games. LOL

There was one game every year that if possible we would 45 and if possible would of scored 100 points in the first quarter and that game still takes place every year. I went to Gordon, do you know who that other team was? Strawn. I am sure they thought and still think the same way.

I was at First Monday in Weatherford today and got to talking to a couple of guys about football. I mentioned 6-man and they said they thought it had just about died out in Texas. I told them about how it is growing every year and that we were up over 200 teams. They were impressed and asked a ton of questions. They are going to hit some games this year they said.

Thanks,

Andrew

OK
so to clarify
I'm not necessarily talking about
the one cross-town (cross-state?)
rival game,
(like this year, for example
when Strawn goes over to Gordon
and thoroughly trounces them
((shameless plug, I know)) :)
but an attitude of week in and week out
trying to 45 your opponent?

I just finished the NFHS FREE
Sportsmanship course.
Too bad it's not mandatory
for all school board presidents,
administrators, coaches, parents, and players.
Hmmm, that's pretty much everyone involved!

One thing they specifically mentioned
as UN-sportsmanlike was:
running up the score in a one-sided game
and
one thing they specifically mentioned
as Sportsmanlike was:
letting all of the back-ups play
in said one-sided game.

So, we could discount a National Federation's
research based suggestions
and keep doing what we've always done,
or we could... change?
Call it a paradigm shift?

(I know there's no one size fits all answer here)

Does it really make a difference whether you get your butt kicked by 1st or 2nd string? One could make the point that is demeaning to play against an opponent's 2nd stringers. From what I've seen from a few of the so-called lesser teams, I doubt they could defeat the 2nd string JV team of the "elite" teams.
A Buttkickin' by any other name is still a Buttkickin'. IMNSHO.

IMO, it's smart to use subs in a one-sided game. Starters get a rest, while subs get needed playing time. At some point, those subs will be the starters.

I guess I was looking at it from
just the side of which I have control.

Of course a whippin is a whippin.
In the heat of battle,
I doubt that the boys
are keeping track
of who's actually whippin them.

One comment was made about saving the boys
from wearing themselves out playing 4 quarters
of football?
My mind is still reeling from that "logic".
(I almost said stupidity, but caught myself)
My boy loved to play the whole game!!
Isn't that what they are there for?

Plus the mommas and poppas and grannies and grandpas of all the subs are happy that the fruit of their loins (or their kiddo's loins) go in the game, and it don't hurt to have those people happy about you as a coach ... you do walk a fine line -- where is the line end between keeping your athletes sharp and in game-shape and playing everybody.

Many of us in sixman don't have three-deep benches (some do), so it may be an academic excercise. Like I used to tell folks at this level, tryouts go something like this -- Try out this uniform. If it fits, you're on the team.

Perhaps it just depends on your perspective.
If you only have 8 players,
you have 6 starters,
the #7 guy is second string
the #8 guy is third string.
If you didn't tell any body that you only had 8
on paper
you could say
that you used your third string
to finish off your opponent
in that big upset victory!

Spin baby spin!!

dog ,
you can tell im not to good at the spin stuff .... haha you are funny like your comments dont always agree but enjoy none the less....

Right back at cha pard!
It's prerfectly normal
for brothers not to agree on everything.
There's lots of different ways
to stick together!!

If you have 8 guys
and they all get to play,
at some point in the game,
and they all do their best
and seem to be having some fun
in the process,
then no matter the score
you and your guys
are learning how to be successful!!
And that
lasts a lifetime.

Good luck this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!