Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

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Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby NDknight04 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:30 pm

The Knights have battled through injuries, a brutal non-district schedule and a couple of nail-bitter playoff games.

Having only seen a few clips of game film on Baytown, I don't feel I can make a great prediction on this matchup. However, I feel like if Baytown lets Notre Dame stick around in this game, the Knights just might have enough offensive firepower to pull off the upset.

Regardless of the outcome, congratulations to Baytown on a great season thus far and doubly so to my Knights for this their second-straight state championship appearance.
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby SicEm74 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:57 pm

Hello NDKnight, congratulations to WFND on making the finals and congratulations to BCA.

I've watched a few BCA games this year and can honestly say will require quite the effort to stop their rushing attack. Having a mentality of "containing" won't cut it. They stick to that run and it pays off for them. In the past they have thrown the ball more per game but this year I guess they figure there is no need. It's working.

And their defense is nasty fast. Talking with a few of their fans, the games that has given their defense trouble has matching speed across the board. They say Freddy had a good range of spread backs that kept them having to run high octane the entire game. Heck, evident in a one point win when you've been blowing teams out all season. But not all teams have a solid pool of speed and I'm not sure I would want to play a game of speed with them unless I have the horsepower.

Same with ND, only a few clips being found on the internet. I'm sure we will all know more once people comment.
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby Cougar1414 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:13 pm

ND back to back State Finals is very impressive and a huge advantage in this game. I think this is Baytown's first time in the Finals on a short week. #1 for ND is a solid player but might have his hands full with Baytown. #21 from Baytown is the best pure RB that I have seen in a long time. He runs over you or at times around you. Fun to watch.
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby WFfootballfan » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:42 am

Congratulations to both teams for making it to the big dance.

Baytown's body of work this season has been very impressive. Notre Dame has had a roller coaster of a year, and I don't think many people predicted them to reach the mountaintop again.

I believe the game will come down to this. The Knights will have to put points on the board early, and test the resolve of Baytown's defense. It seems Freddy was the only team this year to put the Bulldogs in a competitive game, and obviously they handled that pressure well enough.

Still, I think if ND can utilize its speed and maintain their bend but don't break defense in the red zone, this one could once again come down to the final minutes.

Excited to see the game in person. God bless to all the coaches, fans and players who will be traveling this week!
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby THEQB » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:28 pm

Putting points on the board has been a huge issue for all but 1 team. I would be surprised if they accomplish that hurdle, early or late.
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby Mr Jones » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:26 am

Nobody else will say it so I will. WFND is the true D3 caliber team here in the D3 final. This game will be very one-sided. Baytown contends solidly this season with D2 teams and would be mostly competitive with D1 teams.

This is the largest mismatch of the TAPPS championships and puts Baytown in a similar situation back to week 5 when they faced Apple Springs. I congratulate WFND for making it this far but this is not going to be a great matchup like we will see in Veritas/Rockwell. If WFND scores on Baytown's 1st team squad I would be extremely surprised.

ND is erratic and lacks the athletes to compete like they did in the 2015 state final. Not only that, turnovers will kill WFND. Baytown has not lost a district game in three seasons and are on a tear. Freddy gave a scare, they put on a clinic for Seguin and will handily take care of the state game on Thursday.
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby SicEm74 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:54 am

Mr Jones wrote:Nobody else will say it so I will. WFND is the true D3 caliber team here in the D3 final. This game will be very one-sided. Baytown contends solidly this season with D2 teams and would be mostly competitive with D1 teams.

This is the largest mismatch of the TAPPS championships and puts Baytown in a similar situation back to week 5 when they faced Apple Springs. I congratulate WFND for making it this far but this is not going to be a great matchup like we will see in Veritas/Rockwell. If WFND scores on Baytown's 1st team squad I would be extremely surprised.

ND is erratic and lacks the athletes to compete like they did in the 2015 state final. Not only that, turnovers will kill WFND. Baytown has not lost a district game in three seasons and are on a tear. Freddy gave a scare, they put on a clinic for Seguin and will handily take care of the state game on Thursday.


Scorched earth comment. This will definitely receive a rebuttal from ND supporters. Is it really that much of a mismatch???

ND doesn't look too bad from the highlight clips the players have posted on maxprep.
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby billybobthornton » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:15 am

Dont think it is a mismatch, but do believe it will be closer than people think. Baytown should win but dont think it is a halftime game. Notre Dame has been there, Baytown hasnt. Just my opinion.

The truth will be known in a little over 24 hours!!

Good Luck to both teams.
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby GeauxTigers » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:02 pm

The comment about "Been There" vs. "First Time There" is overrated. It really comes down to talent and preparation. For instance, the leading up to the Seguin game--the "experts" predicted that Seguin would beat Baytown by 15 pts. Those same "experts" also gave Seguin extra credit for having "been there" in that situation multiple times previously. Well, the result was a 45 pt. win for Baytown (a 60 pt. swing in the opposite direction of the experts predictions).

With all this being said, I am NOT going to make a prediction at this time. I don't want to give ND any "red meat" to chew on. However, I just wanted to squash the talk of "been there" vs. "first time there". I don't think that really makes a big difference unless the teams are evenly matched.
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby THEQB » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:33 pm

After attending the Seguin game, Notre Dame better be ready to be hit and hit hard. Those Baytown boys brought the wood last game and it was fun to watch. Good luck to both teams!
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby test_em » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:31 pm

Baytown has too many weapons to deal with. Quick defense and a punch you in the mouth offense. I have to go with Baytown in this matchup.
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby Mr Jones » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:15 am

billybobthornton wrote:Dont think it is a mismatch, but do believe it will be closer than people think. Baytown should win but dont think it is a halftime game. Notre Dame has been there, Baytown hasnt. Just my opinion.

The truth will be known in a little over 24 hours!!

Good Luck to both teams.


I am not turning this into something that its not, just stating facts.

ND is 7-4 / 3-0 in one, if not the easiest of TAPPS districts. They have an offense that IMO is all over the map on what will happen. Often the QB will throw hail Mary's on first and second down looking for a play. The teams who beat them capitalized on these mistkes by making the interception. To me, the only move they have made since their last defeat was a counter punch to Granbury, which is defensively a mess. ND squeaked by a bad team in Weatherford by only 4 points! Not a strong showing. ND has a run game that is par.

Baytown is 12-0 / 4-0 with no big wins over any true powerhouses but did take care of Freddy by one and mercy ruled a personnel suffering Seguin. Conroe was overrated on this site in power rating and Baytown helped to correct the issue after the win. The beginning and latter of their schedule was blowout after blowout of sub par teams. Baytown is the pretty penny in their district. I have seen this team a few times this season including both playoff games.

I think the guys saying that this will be a decent contest need to hit the road and watch some sixman. This will be a one sided event for Baytown although I do hope for a decent game and not a slaughter. I, for the record would have rather had one D2 bracket and done away with D3. Much more competition this way.

Good luck again to these teams. See you in the stands tomorrow!
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby Been_There_Done_That » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:04 pm

I have been a reader of these pages for years. I am not big on commenting but there is 1 thing is being over looked in this situation. Strength of schedule. If you look at the people Baytown has played and compare it to WFND, it doesn't compare . Baytown in the regular season played one team with a rating of higher than 270 (currently). Then as soon as they play a great coached team in Freddy,that is above 300 they "squeak" by with a 1 point win. They then get a Seguin team at 1/2 strength because of their missing players. Not trying to take anything away from baytown, but their rating is inflated by an easy regular season.

Compare that to WFND who played a tough regular season.WFND's 4 losses were to a bryson (312) team who is a consistently good as well as a consistent playoff team, a lucas christian team who was #1 in TCAF (330), a Crowell (381) team who is a state public school powerhouse playing in a state championship, as well and Granbury who they beat the second time around. Granted WFND almost lost to Weatherford, but as anyone who has actually played football knows, its hard to come out hot after 2 bye weeks back to back. (WFND had a first round buy and a bye the last week of the season.)

I, like everyone else thought Seguin would run through this playoffs and win state, ecpecially after seeing a couple of their games early on. But now i like WFND. We shouldn't be so quick to judge records, But i like underdogs. I think WFND pulls off an upset and wins by 7.
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby test_em » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:00 pm

Baytown Christian 38 - WFND 22. Half
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Re: Div. III State Final - Notre Dame vs. Baytown Christian

Postby GeauxTigers » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:34 pm

Final: Baytown 65, ND 54
It was a battle! Those boys from ND played a helluva game and fought their tails off! But in the end, the Dawgs completed their perfect season. The Dawgs offense was unstoppable. The Dawgs also gave up 3 turnovers--otherwise the margin would have been more in their favor. Kudos to ND--everytime it looked like Baytown was about to pull away with a 20+ lead, ND responded. They used lots of trickeration and double reverses and double passes to keep things interesting. Congrats to the BCA Dawgs on their perfect "Championship" season! Congrats on the runner-ups for giving Baytown a true test today. It was a fun ride!
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