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Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:29 am
by Wonder Dog
Out of those schools listed, who would you say has the best baseball programs?



Ira, They've made several DEEP playoff runs in baseball in past years.




Just my opinion on this statement, but I believe Ira has the BEST overall BOYS program in all of sixman.
They're always going deep in football.... Basketball they're always in the mix.... AND BASEBALL no other sixman school (that plays football) can touch them in baseball.

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:34 am
by ryry
Ira Bulldogs (12-1)
District 3-1A Champions.
Congrats Bulldogs!!

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:29 am
by Shad Kline
I would agree with Ira.

It's awesome to see a 6-man school do well in baseball. It gives me hope.

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:58 am
by ryry
The Ira Bulldogs had a great win last night over the Bangs Dragons in a warm up game. Ira takes the win 14-4 with two Bulldogs with home runs. Congrats Bulldogs!

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:02 pm
by Blue Bird
Went nosing around the UIL baseball brackets for 1A, counted six or seven sixman size schools in the playoffs. This included Gorman and Baird evan though they play the crowded field. Ira, May, Milford and High Island are in the playoffs. Ft. Hancock is in the playoffs, they play sixman but are too large to be in a district. District 9 had all three places as TBA, could have a couple more there. Could have missed one or two. Seems like a small percentage for the total number of sixman schools playing baseball.

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 9:05 am
by Shad Kline
Blue Bird wrote:Went nosing around the UIL baseball brackets for 1A, counted six or seven sixman size schools in the playoffs. This included Gorman and Baird evan though they play the crowded field. Ira, May, Milford and High Island are in the playoffs. Ft. Hancock is in the playoffs, they play sixman but are too large to be in a district. District 9 had all three places as TBA, could have a couple more there. Could have missed one or two. Seems like a small percentage for the total number of sixman schools playing baseball.

That makes sense.
Six man schools have at most, 100 students, 1A (2A next year) has up to 200. So twice the talent pool. And, just as in football, the winning programs get more kids to play, therefore they get better. The smaller schools, who struggle to win against the schools twice their size, get fewer and fewer kids, and therefore get worse until there aren't enough to play.
It's almost like the UIL is discouraging smaller schools to play baseball.
Wonder what it would take for the UIL to make a 1A (next year) division in baseball? Surely the added division means more playoff games, which means more money for the UIL. UIL is all about money right? Should be a no brainer.

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 10:54 am
by Old Bearkat
hornkeeper12 wrote:
Blue Bird wrote:Went nosing around the UIL baseball brackets for 1A, counted six or seven sixman size schools in the playoffs. This included Gorman and Baird evan though they play the crowded field. Ira, May, Milford and High Island are in the playoffs. Ft. Hancock is in the playoffs, they play sixman but are too large to be in a district. District 9 had all three places as TBA, could have a couple more there. Could have missed one or two. Seems like a small percentage for the total number of sixman schools playing baseball.

That makes sense.
Six man schools have at most, 100 students, 1A (2A next year) has up to 200. So twice the talent pool. And, just as in football, the winning programs get more kids to play, therefore they get better. The smaller schools, who struggle to win against the schools twice their size, get fewer and fewer kids, and therefore get worse until there aren't enough to play.
It's almost like the UIL is discouraging smaller schools to play baseball.
Wonder what it would take for the UIL to make a 1A (next year) division in baseball? Surely the added division means more playoff games, which means more money for the UIL. UIL is all about money right? Should be a no brainer.


What little money it would make would be chump change compared to the bigger divisions. They probably will not think it is worth their time.

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 12:19 pm
by Caprock kid
Agreed UIL could care less if six man size schools play baseball or not. It is a sad thing to see, but what if they did make a 1A division next year and come up with new districs how much traveling would schools have to do?

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 1:51 pm
by wths
unless someone was left off that list Follett was the last six-man school to make the state tournament in 2004 where they lost in the finals

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 1:55 pm
by wths
Most districts are relatively close now but I really don't think they'll make a Div 1 and Div 2 there just isn't enough schools. I'd say the average drive time for that would be probably 2 hrs plus per game and in Nazareth, Follett, Valley and Kress' case once they got deep in the playoffs they'd be looking at probably 6 hrs plus per game. Most schools just won't be able to afford it.

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 2:38 pm
by Shad Kline
These are the 1A schools (1A next year) that are on the UIL alignment list. I broke them down by possible districts. It's almost 80 schools, i don't see how that isn't enough. How many do we have in football? Less than 80 per division. Nothing saying that a team that has to travel pretty far can't do a double header. You could do a home/home double header with a team and the next year do it at their place, or vice versa. It can be done, and I would bet the majority of the coaches would rather travel a little further to be able to compete in district. And, I'm a bettin that there would be a substantial growth in baseball from schools who don't play because they know they can't compete in 2A.


Follett
Kress
Nazareth
Turkey Valley
Crosbyton
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O'Donnell
Whiteface
Marfa
Westbrook
Gail Borden
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Hermleigh
Ira
Loraine
Roby
Rotan
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Vernon Northside
Chillicothe
Knox City
Bryson
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Perrin-Whitt
Graford
Gordon
Gorman
Lipan
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Cross Plains
May
Sidney
Baird
Clyde Eula
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Tioga
Savoy
Ector
Dodd City
Ladonia Fannindel
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Roxton
Sulphur Bluff
Campbell
Cumby Miller Grove
Saltillo
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Bloomburg
Gilmer Union Hill
Yantis
Fruitvale
Leverett's Chapel
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Waxahachie Faith
Avalon
Blum
Covington
Milford
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Iredell
Abbott
Coolidge
Mount Calm
Trinidad
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Gary
Mount Enterprise
Douglass
Chireno
Wells
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Burkeville
Spurger
Chester
Leggett
High Island
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North Zulch
Oakwood
Apple Springs
Groveton Centerville
Kennard
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Burton
Dime Box
Round Top-Carmine
Buckholts
Fayetteville
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Moulton
Menard
D’Hanis
Medina
Runge

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 2:41 pm
by wths
Yes when you put it down and look at it it looks pretty feasible if only the powers that be would go for it.

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:00 pm
by Shad Kline
If there was enough push, they would go for it.

That's how everything else has happened so far, the coaches/supt's pushed for it. If not for the pushing, we would still be competing against schools twice our size in basketball and track. Now we just need them to follow suit in baseball.

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:24 pm
by Dogface2
hornkeeper12 wrote:If there was enough push, they would go for it.

That's how everything else has happened so far, the coaches/supt's pushed for it. If not for the pushing, we would still be competing against schools twice our size in basketball and track. Now we just need them to follow suit in baseball.

Good Point!!

Re: 6-Man Schools Playing Baseball

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 5:01 pm
by Caprock kid
But is there that much support for the baseball programs in the small schools? There are some towns like Garden city that will say they will never play baseball because it takes away from Track. And some times it's left up to the parents and kids to push for a baseball program.