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Baseball Hall of Fame (any baseball nerds out there)

Postby oneday » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:42 pm

With so many Steroid Era guys up for the Hall of Fame now.....

You have the power to put 1 person in the Hall of Fame with out question...of the players currently not in the Hall of Fame (and not playing), who do you put in?
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Postby Shad Kline » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:15 pm

Pete Rose! Its the only way he will EVER get in.
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Postby oneday » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:18 pm

guess no one besides hornkeeper is interested in baseball at all on this board...

My vote is Shoeless Joe Jackson
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Postby Shad Kline » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:45 pm

oneday wrote:guess no one besides hornkeeper is interested in baseball at all on this board...

My vote is Shoeless Joe Jackson

That was my second thought.
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Postby RoscoeSparks11 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:09 pm

My humble and worthless vote would go to the great Shoeless Joe Jackson. Best baseball player ever. Look at his numbers during the 1919 World Series(Black Sox Sacandal).

.375
12 hits (more than anyone in the series and a series record)
5 runs scored
6 RBI
Fielding %= 100 all 30+ balls that came to him in the field were fielded NO ERRORS

Lifetime BA .356
rookie year record for Ba .408

"I copied Jackson's style because I thought he was the greatest hitter I had ever seen, the greatest natural hitter I ever saw. He's the guy who made me a hitter."
-- Babe Ruth
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Postby burnerman » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:21 pm

Sorry guys but I will respectfully disagree about Pete Rose. he was a fantastic player but you cannot stick a player / coach who bets on games , his own games, as he has admitted and stick him in the HOF. it is not right and it will never be right. More importantly, Pete Rose acknowledges what he did but still does not see the magnitude of the wrong. He always hedges his explanation. And just as a side note, the way he treats the fans of baseball at his signing events continues his slime ball personality.

My opinion but just saying.
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Postby oldfat&bald » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:25 am

I say let Rose in, the day after his funeral. Shoeless Joe ought to be in already.
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Postby oldfat&bald » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:26 am

Anybody think Clemens should go in?
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Postby oneday » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:14 am

Agree 100% Oldfatbald...lifetime bans should end once the person dies...I think 3 "Black Sox" should be Hall of Famers and at least 1, maybe 2, could have become Hall of Famers:

Eddie Cicotte, Buck Weaver, Joe Jackson - Hall of Famers

Hap Felsch might have been one if he was given a whole career, and maybe Lefty Williams.

Think about this...Lefty Williams in 1919 was 23-11 with a 2.64 ERA and his salary was $2,600! and was 22-14 in 1920 before being kicked off the team in late September.

A Lefty Williams autograph today is worth more than he was paid in 1919! One sold at auction in 2009 for $8,500!

http://dec09.hugginsandscott.com/cgi-bi ... emid=16266

O and the whole team knew that some of the players were trying to fix the 1919 World Series/had guilty knowledge and didn't reportet it to MLB authorities and yet 4 of them (Eddie Collins, Ray Schalk, Red Faber, and owner Charles Comiskey) are in the Hall of Fame!

Just think on that for a while...
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Postby Old Bearkat » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:13 pm

oneday wrote:Agree 100% Oldfatbald...lifetime bans should end once the person dies...I think 3 "Black Sox" should be Hall of Famers and at least 1, maybe 2, could have become Hall of Famers:

Eddie Cicotte, Buck Weaver, Joe Jackson - Hall of Famers

Hap Felsch might have been one if he was given a whole career, and maybe Lefty Williams.

Think about this...Lefty Williams in 1919 was 23-11 with a 2.64 ERA and his salary was $2,600! and was 22-14 in 1920 before being kicked off the team in late September.

A Lefty Williams autograph today is worth more than he was paid in 1919! One sold at auction in 2009 for $8,500!

http://dec09.hugginsandscott.com/cgi-bi ... emid=16266

O and the whole team knew that some of the players were trying to fix the 1919 World Series/had guilty knowledge and didn't reportet it to MLB authorities and yet 4 of them (Eddie Collins, Ray Schalk, Red Faber, and owner Charles Comiskey) are in the Hall of Fame!

Just think on that for a while...


Comiskey deserved to be booted out for the way he treated his players. If he had not been such a chichy tightwad none of those guys would have ever taken the gambler's money.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame (any baseball nerds out there)

Postby oldfat&bald » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:18 pm

Dumb question. Does any one else think they should shorten the regular season since they added the wild card playoff round? And does anyone else think that giving WS home field advantage to the league that wins the all star game is dumb?
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Postby olderelk » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:47 pm

The league winning the all star game getting home field advantage in the WS just isn't right. And IMO, yes even dumb.
Having two wild card teams and having a one game playoff in each league is also dumb. Anything for the money.
The first thing you know the UIL will start behaving like this. Oh, wait....
The first player I thought of was Shoeless Joe for the HOF question.
Rose is a sleeze ball, but a great baseball playing sleeze ball. He was born to play baseball. I agree, let him in after he's gone.
As for Clements, you don't really believe he used HGH do you? Say it ain't so Roger. (Oh, wait he did) (and he probably did)
Man he was a great pitcher.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame (any baseball nerds out there)

Postby Blue Bird » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:15 am

I really don't want to see Barry Bonds in the hof. If you let one from the steroid era in you would have to let all of them in. That is going to leave Pudge out, but so be it. If you use the standard "once they die let them in" on shoeless Joe and Pete Rose it could and should apply to Roger Clemons and his era too.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame (any baseball nerds out there)

Postby Old Bearkat » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:28 am

oldfat&bald wrote:Dumb question. Does any one else think they should shorten the regular season since they added the wild card playoff round? And does anyone else think that giving WS home field advantage to the league that wins the all star game is dumb?


Yes. Go back to the 156 game season, like before 1962.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame (any baseball nerds out there)

Postby coachsatcher » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:59 pm

burnerman wrote:Sorry guys but I will respectfully disagree about Pete Rose. he was a fantastic player but you cannot stick a player / coach who bets on games , his own games, as he has admitted and stick him in the HOF. it is not right and it will never be right. More importantly, Pete Rose acknowledges what he did but still does not see the magnitude of the wrong. He always hedges his explanation. And just as a side note, the way he treats the fans of baseball at his signing events continues his slime ball personality.

My opinion but just saying.


I respect your opinion, but the hall of fame is for a players work on the field. Anything done off the field should have no bearing on their place in history. Many of our hall of famers, in every sport, made terrible choices off the field. Pete Rose was one of the best baseball players to step foot on the diamond. Yes, what he did was stupid! But it never stopped him from performing on the field. One player/manager (non-pitcher) can not affect the spread in a baseball game enough to make a significant difference (excluding Bill Buckner). I'm not condoning what he did. I'm just saying there are tons of pro athletes that I wouldn't want my daughter dating; but was the best at their sport during their tenure. He served enough time out of the hall and deserves to take his place alongside his teamates and fellow competitors.
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