Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby DirtyBayBulldog » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:58 pm

Any talk of T.A.P.P.S. going back to 2 division and having only two championships?
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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby Vincent J. Davis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:19 am

pup wrote:Baytown "Goose Creek" Christian will continue to win as long as they are allowed to recruit from local 5A schools. Wouldn't your program be better if you "inherited" 6 very good athletes/players from the local big public school? I don't care what you say, it's not fair and it's not what TAPPS is supposed to be about.


I keep saying I won’t post out of respect for The school I coach at but I just can’t let you all keep doing this to these kids....

The public school education at these 5a and 6a schools are pretty bad... I left Duncanville High school and transferred to Duncanville Christway because at Duncanville the education is probably the worst in the state of Texas. I heard the same stuff, saying Christway recruited us for sports and all of that non sense. I’m sure it’s the same way down in the Houston area... going to a private school gives these young men an opportunity to get a better education and helps set them up for life... at the end of the day it doesn’t matter who wins a football game or who wins a state title, I’m pretty sure the parents from Baytown put those boys over there so that they can get a better education because a private school education is waaaay better than a public education!!

It’s just sad that grown people can come on this website and go after these kids for winning a game that doesn’t determine who you will be later in life.... the goal as coaches is for us to mentor these young men and make sure they get to college and get those degrees because at the end of the day that is what it is all about!! Baytown has some very great coaches, wonderful parents, nice respectful young men.. can tell they’ve been raised the right way. And also, transferring to a private school prepared me way more for college and that’s why I was able to have a masters degree in my hands before the age of 25.

Keep doing great things down in Baytown, to all the coaches, parents, players and administrators at Baytown

Coach Davis from Dallas Lutheran has yall back.

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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby pup » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:06 pm

Y'all are missing the point. It's not about quality of education or why public schools are "the worst in Texas." It's completely about a small school, nearly the smallest of the small, getting 6 quality athletes from a 5A public school. It's totally about a coach using his relationship with peewee athletes and Goose Creek Memorial High School to entice players over to his school. Baytown has essentially created an elite team.

Yes, I understand public school kids transfer to TAPPS schools every year, for a multitude of reasons, it happens all the time. One, maybe two kids a year at these small sixman schools. But Baytown didn't just inherit average kids mind you, not six band nerds, not six golf players, they got six really good football players. I can't believe I'm the only one that sees an issue developing here. You'd be hard pressed to look back in TAPPS sixman football history and find ANY school that received six transfers.

It says right in the TAPPS constitution- "The Purpose of TAPPS is and shall be to organize, to stimulate, to encourage and to promote the academic, athletic and fine arts programs in an effort to foster a spirit of fair play, good fellowship, true sportsmanship and wholesome competition for boys and girls."

In my opinion, not fair play, not true sportsmanship, not wholesome, and certainly not good fellowship.
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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby Vincent J. Davis » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:23 pm

Pup, RJ Washington 1st team all state. 40 tds 0iints this season, was a junior on the 7-4 Baytown team in 2017 that lost in the semi finals.. #10 last name Luke also apart of the 7-4 .. 2017 team.. he was also first team all state .. #1 the running back was a sophomore on the 7-4 Baytown team.. also all state as a junior this year.. no one says anything until you start dominating.. same for the Gainesville lone star north.. no one had a problem with them when coach burns and his team was getting smacked in 11 man last season but all of a sudden they come to 6man have a little success and everyone has a problem... at the end of the day... leave these kids alone... as I stated.. the goal as coaches is to continue developing young men of character, help leading them down gods path and just to let them go out there and have fun.. and also what is really the goal for Tapps?? Sure wasn’t promoted that way when they treated me and my Duncanville Christway family like we were nothing back in 2009!!

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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby Coach Adams » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:36 pm

This thread was good talking about 2019. But, it took a turn to why such and such school won because of transfers. Transfers happen. All the rules are laid out what TAPPS schools can and can't do in terms of solicitation of students here: https://tapps.biz/solicitation-of-students/. As long as any school stays within those guidelines they are in good standing with TAPPS. Who is going to turn down any student-athlete that wants to come to their school that's going to make a difference in any sports. Most of the time multiple sports.
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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby DirtyBayBulldog » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:42 am

Coach Adams, let me be the first on the board to say I was wrong about your 2018 team. Given the number of players and the youth on the team I looked for your team to win 3-4 games....boy was I wrong!

Your staff and players did a fine job this year. You guys are one of my early teams to watch for next year.
Maybe if the T.A.P.P.S. uses two divisions again, Baytown and Allen can have a district matchup.

Jumping ahead, any early commits for the 2019 Allen Classic?
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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby pup » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:25 am

Test em and War Eagle this is not about whining at all. This isnt something that has been observed just since they won state. There is a pattern here that is very unusual. Historically unusual (minus Cleveland Heritage).

Vincent I respect your perspective and agree kids that have an opportunity to get a better education should do so. However, if you do your homework and look deeper then tell me how many girls transferred to Baytown, how many non athletes transferred to Baytown to get this better education (now don't go reading that wrong, I am sure Baytown Christian offers a great education for kids).

Everyone of you have valid remarks (good education, opportunities good parents, good coaches etc.).

Nonetheless the point that cannot be denied is that there is a huge obvious anomaly here. Transfers of better education seeking kids happen all the time, periodically good athletes transfer in along with many non athletic types. Not the case here. There is a solid pattern. 7-3 year I get that I observed that. Go out and get three more studs to add to that and now we are 14-0 demolishing everyone.

Speaking of that lets talk to that point briefly. Small Tapps private school division III football.
This is obvious and historic that most (75%) of these kids that play small school tapps sixman football would probably not even have the opportunity to play football at the local public schools. I know many of you know exactly what I am talking about.
If you want to play the "going to private school to get a quality education" which I agree with (EDUCATION) then you also have to acknowledge the fact that many of these (non stud athletes) whilst getting a good private school education like to augment their education with athletic participation.
Two points:

1. How are the kids who have been going to Baytown for many years waiting for an opportunity to play high school football feel when their last two years or more they get to ride the pine because 6 or more stud athletes who came over to get a better opportunity just happen to be studs athletes. Seems like a raw deal to me.

2. The 95% of the rest of the private school teams div III albeit 8-14 kids on a team without stud transfers maybe 1-2 studs that have been at the school since grade school get to all of sudden get their brains pounded in by 5A athletes (albeit most getting solid looks from college recruiters)

Now before you jump on the small school whiners everybody gets a trophy platform. Stop and look at what is really being said here. This is not a I want everybody to get a trophy. This is a statement on creating a reasonable and fair playing field for all. I accept that there are going to be state champions and district champions and there are going to be 45's.

However, this is a true anomaly and to state otherwise is sticking your head in the sand.

Really try hard to take a look at how this is an anomaly in small school private Tapps football.
Regardless of the typical points about transfers and legality etc.
Is this really where we want Tapps sixman football to go.

There are more reasons that this needs to not be the norm than just (they won the state title and I am whining)

If you are really interested in keeping the integrity of tapps sixman football intact and providing opportunities to grow kids then this will bother you.

If this continues then it only will end up hurting the opportunities for tapps sixman football coaches and programs to make a difference because it will go the route of select ball.

If this is truly a two year anomaly as stated and 5 years from now we all look back and say wow that was an unusually athletic team that benefited from an unusual flood of transfers, and it doesnt keep happening. Then I think tapps will continue to meet its mission.

I am encouraging dialogue on this as I think it is an important cross roads for small school Tapps sixman football.

I am not encouraging mud slinging and bad mouthing. In this era of select ball. This is a real thing.
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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby Vincent J. Davis » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:28 am

Okay pup, like I said leave these kids alone.. stop hiding behind a screen.. go up to baytown Christian and voice your concerns... it’s people like you that take the joy away from these kids... you’d have a point if Baytown beat every team 100-0 .. I mean they only beat weatherford by 15 and was up 2 at the half.. weatherford was undefeated so should we look and see if they got any transfer students in???

Again, if you have a problem why don’t you go up to Baytown Christian and voice your concerns to the administration...

It’s time for someone to start standing up for these kids and I’m the one to do it... I could care less if I coach I’m not going to sit here and let you GROWN folks come on this site and do this to these kids...

Anything else you would like to talk about I can be reached at 972-897-2841

I’m not an internet talker.. I can meet face to face.. eye to eye... if you will be at AT&T for the uil games come find me and we can discuss in person and I can try to get a better understanding of this my brother..

Hope you find peace and happiness

God bless,

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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby pup » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:59 pm

Coach Davis unfortunately your the only one that is making this about the kids. I am not attacking a single kid. This is about any program that has this big of an anomaly. I doubt seriously that any other sixman tapps school particularly as small as division III has had 6 stud transfers like this.
Reminder this ain't the kids fault or problem. The kids have done nothing here. This is a system program anomaly.

This isn't just about Baytown I would be concerned if this was any small Christian school athletic anomaly. Ill be quiet if you can show me where this has ever happened in the last 20 years in tapps sixman small school.

You have completely missed the point in your attack on me. Its an anomaly (thats the point) You cant refute that. I am not looking to get Baytown in trouble. I am looking to hope that this does not become the norm.

I am at peace I appreciate your hope. I think your trying to take this in the totally wrong direction as a defense and that's not the true issue here. Your right its not about the kids. Lets not even call it about Baytown. Lets call it about an anomaly.

You playing the distraction card (quit making it about the kids) isn't proper. This ain't about the kids and never has been. Its about a huge abnormality that effects precedence.

I am not interested in attacking you or changing your mind personally. I am interested in making this known so that it does not become the norm. (I am not against giving every kid an opportunity at a better education, I am all for that) (I am against anomalies)
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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby Vincent J. Davis » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:23 pm

We can agree to disagree sir, no hard feelings.. coach Davis just loves the kids!!

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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby Coach Adams » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:07 pm

DirtyBayBulldog wrote:Coach Adams, let me be the first on the board to say I was wrong about your 2018 team. Given the number of players and the youth on the team I looked for your team to win 3-4 games....boy was I wrong!

Your staff and players did a fine job this year. You guys are one of my early teams to watch for next year.
Maybe if the T.A.P.P.S. uses two divisions again, Baytown and Allen can have a district matchup.

Jumping ahead, any early commits for the 2019 Allen Classic?


Thanks for the compliment DirtyBayBulldog. Our boys worked hard starting last May and it showed in their play this season. We'll need to have to get after in the weight room, conditioning, and spring ball over the next few months to have similar results in 2019. Our district is pretty tough already. Congrats to Baytown on the state title.

We're excited about our showcase schedule. We have some great match-ups and we may add one more game.

Thursday, August 29th
7:00 pm - Allen Academy (Home) vs. Logos Prep Academy (Away)

Friday, August 30th
5:00 pm - BVCHEA (Home) vs. East Texas Christian Academy (Away)
7:30 pm - New Braunfels Christian Academy (Home) vs. Cedar Park Summit Christian (Away)

Saturday, August 31st
5:00 pm - St. Joseph (Home) vs. Calvert (Away)
7:30 pm - Alpha Omega (Home) vs. Oakwood (Away)
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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby test_em » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:28 pm

Sounds like you have had your rear ends handed to you a few times by Baytown pup!!!

Congrats to Coach Anderson and his coaching staff over there at Baytown. Looks like y’all have been doing a great job over there with those young men.

Coach Davis I agree with you 100%. It’s all about mentoring those young men and having them ready for the next step in their life.

Pup you need to check yourself. Those young men had an amazing season and they don’t need some jealous adult taking away from their season by accusing them of cheating!
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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby pup » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:15 pm

You missed the entire ball park test em. If you read my previous post and convo with Coach Davis you will see that I never made it about the kids. Unfortunately, in your effort to detract from the real point you made it about the kids. (refer to previous post on how I support kids)

Nice troll. Your right this ain't about the kids its about an anomaly within Division III tapps sixman football soon to be known as Tapps sixman select league. This is the very thing that gives private school athletics a bad rap. (Once again refer to previous post on how I support the kids.) If you want to make it about something then let it be about an anomaly not kids.
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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby DirtyBayBulldog » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:06 am

With 16 returning players and 11 of them being regular contributors, I say Baytown has a good shot at being state finalist again, maybe even winning it all.
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Re: Way Too Early TAPPS 2019 Predictions

Postby WarEagle » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:17 am

Great lol..
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