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swires wrote:Oh Ill keep digging. The defense deal came from Rainer. Same defense that was ran in Follett by Etheridge when Rainer was there. McLean never ran defense that way until Rainer got there. Still no facts proven. Remove Crockett from the field the last 2 years. What do you get??? You get McLean staying at the house come playoff time!!!!!!
LBK6manFan wrote:swires wrote:There is no need for apologies. I do not see that anything got out of hand. Did I take exception to it being said that Linman was 2 or 3 times the coach Rucker is because he has beaten him the last 5 times they have played? I did. I did not try to discredit McLeans coach. I have said it twice on this thread and also on a previous thread that I believe he is a good coach. If by me stating that he is not the reason for McLeans overall success since he started there discredits him, then I am wrong. It doesnt take a rocket surgeon to see the real reason behind the success at McLean. The biggest reason for McLeans success is Crockett! Close to that is the addition of Coach Ranier and his defense. Does Linman deserve credit for being a huge part of state championship and potential state championship? 100%. Does that make him the greatest thing since peanut butter like he has been portrayed? No. Is he a great offensive strategist who has changed the way 6 man is played? No he is not. He runs the same plays and offense that the majority of coaches in 6 man use. Does he teach his kids fundamentals and inspire them to be greater individuals in life? Absolutely yes. Does it make him three times the coach Rucker is because he has beaten him every time they have faced each other? No. We (I included) judge coaches for all kinds of different reasons. Are wins, losses, and rings what determine the character and success of a coach? It all depends on which ruler you are measuring with. I dont know what facts you stated that make you think i was proven wrong. McLean has beaten WD the last 5 times they have played? I never disagreed with that. I saw all of the games in person so I know who won. I never declared a winner or loser in this game. I simply stated that to beat McLean, a team has to tackle Crockett and score more points against a very aggressive good tackling defense. That hasnt happened the last 5 times these two teams have played. If White Deer can do that Friday night, then they will win the game.If not, McLean will win. Oh, and Ill still be here.
* You literally said Linman hasnt had success before McLean won a state championship(1st ever) I proved you wrong, he had Crockett as a skinny sophomore and went to the quarterfinals. Hopefully you've heard of offseason and strength and conditioning which Linman brought in. Not to mention you discredited him on his defense, which he brought in before Rainer. He runs what is effective and what works with the personnel he has. Didnt he have to replace 3-4 quality starters from last years team? Yes. Prove ME wrong Andee?
*And... you do have ties to WD, congrats on the Does! I would assume it would be the lady pirates of Lefors...
swires wrote:And I could be wrong but I never recall McLean running a 5 1 defense against the JBird until Rainer got there. And they did not defend the same way against spread offense before he got there.
6manonly wrote:So statements like I could be wrong and I don't remember are your way of saying you were wrong and you were!! That is a fact!! Hes been in McLean for 3 years that's a fact.. McLean who from what I've been told has been terrible in the past and there record proves that if you look back.. the combination of a great talent pool in McLean last 3 years and one of the best coaches around is why they are where they are. Swires if you were at the games last year you know what McLean lost they were one of the Best 6man teams of all time. That's a fact.. So he graduated 4 all-state huge seniors yet they reload this year and here we are.. Ben Crockett will go down in history as one of the greatest but I bet you one thing if you put him on lefors this year they make two rounds In the playoffs at best.. so You put all that in McLean at once and they do what they do starting at the top. If WD put all that together then we could flip the order of this conversation. But they dont and they havent. Is bill belichick a better coach than jason Garrett? Yes that's a fact I follow it all very closely with an un biased opinion and after 5 beatings and I do mean beatings it's fair to say that Linman has outcoached rucker that's a fact!!!
6manonly wrote:I now live in Fredericksburg and grew up in new Mexico and 6 man there was so exciting and when I moved to texas I became addicted I go to many games from all parts of the state I talk to the locals I study the game and I live to watch 6man football. I have no dogs in the fights but feel strongly about people who base there comments on things other than facts. So really I should butt out but sometimes I just cant lol..
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