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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby Morey P. » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:25 am

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bleedhornetblue wrote:Not trying to start a pi##ing match here, but here are the facts that 6manfamily wanted from TEA website.
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Richland Springs 2018 TEA School Report Card Rochelle
Overall 73 84
Student Achievement 70 85
School Progress 76 86
Closing the Gaps 66 80

I do not understand the Rochelle is a circus comment we hired a new AD in Shawn Rodgers and he gave us his word that Rochelle was where he wanted to be then signed a contract with us. He then within weeks signed a contract with Richland Springs but just forgot to inform us. In fact he finally informed us he was leaving weeks after but we did not find out he had another job until Coach Cherry asked to be allowed to make the transition to Rochelle and we were told sure as long as you will let Rodgers go ahead and come over here. Not trying to bad mouth anyone because Rochelle is thrilled with how this all worked out. We love having Coach Cherry and his family and are extremely blessed to have him mentoring our kids. I assume RS is happy as well. Just stating some facts because I do not agree with the circus comment. Dave Lewis has done amazing things with Rochelle and our future is bright.

Your school board makes Rochelle a circus. When you have board members publicly bad mouthing former coaches, you become a circus. Rochelle was "thrilled" when Coach Phillips left and the next coach took over. Then, that coach pissed off a school board member and he was sent packing. School board members tried to get Rigdon to come in, but of course, he was way smarter than people thought. Next, you hire Rogers. That lasted 6 weeks. Finally Cherry comes in. All three with Richland ties. For a school community who claims the Coyotes as their biggest rival, they sure tried to snatch up any available Richland coach. December through May makes Rochelle a circus, sir/ma'am.



Very well said, the problem is the board members love to feel important or most anyway, they talk to everyone about everything and when decisions need to be made they are all old high school buddies so they just stick together, Lewis is a good guy from what I know but u hired a inexperienced superintendent and a inexperienced principal then in same year let them hire inexperienced teachers, assistant girls coach(with no degree) and inexperienced AD HC and sat back and let them run off good students and families as they tried to figure out what they were doing.. and can’t say you were not aware of mistakes they were making cause you were right there pushing ur kids in front of their faces the entire time!! This is why Rochelle is a circus, best of luck tho!!

Spot on! Don't forget the teachers with over 10 years experience they also ran off. Many of whom had no intention of leaving the school district. You can't mess with people's careers and livelihood and expect something good to come out of it...
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby Little Doc » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:47 pm

The problem with a lot of smaller schools that experience a lot of athletic success is the fact that a lot of people(parents,school board members,Monday morning quarterbacks,etc.) all of a sudden become experts about the game. When the successful coach leaves and a new one is hired, those so called experts think they know more than the newly hired coach and when those so-called influential people start the moaning and groaning, the lynch mob mentality takes over. Grow up folks! It's a game for the kids. Not life and death!
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby freeagent » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:12 pm

Little Doc wrote:The problem with a lot of smaller schools that experience a lot of athletic success is the fact that a lot of people(parents,school board members,Monday morning quarterbacks,etc.) all of a sudden become experts about the game. When the successful coach leaves and a new one is hired, those so called experts think they know more than the newly hired coach and when those so-called influential people start the moaning and groaning, the lynch mob mentality takes over. Grow up folks! It's a game for the kids. Not life and death!


A wise and successful coach once told me that if the choice was between listening to the locals (administrators, school board, parents, others) on how to coach or winning football games, always choose winning football games. There will always be a job for a winning coach.
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby 6manfamily » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:47 pm

Little Doc wrote:The problem with a lot of smaller schools that experience a lot of athletic success is the fact that a lot of people(parents,school board members,Monday morning quarterbacks,etc.) all of a sudden become experts about the game. When the successful coach leaves and a new one is hired, those so called experts think they know more than the newly hired coach and when those so-called influential people start the moaning and groaning, the lynch mob mentality takes over. Grow up folks! It's a game for the kids. Not life and death!



Add to that when the so called expert/board member or members is a parent of kids with at best, average talent but they want them to be the star of the team at the same school that they themselves was average at best at its a recipe for disaster!! But like I said before I’m rooting for all the small town schools I just happen to live in BRADY Texas and have friends close to the RS and Richelle programs so I see a lot! Well lohn too but they may not have a team since Rochelle has lured away the Sr. And Freshman kid, but I am curious if the administration is seriously going to accept the utility bill from a address they do not live at just so they can be eligible... that can’t be legal right?? I mean it’s my understanding that those boys use to go to Rochelle and everyone know for sure where they live and will be living and they should not be eligible, so let’s see just how bad they want to keep their CIRCUS status!!
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby 6manfamily » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:07 am

Hopefully both schools have made the necessary moves to put their district and student on paths for success, like all small towns little changes can make a huge difference, I’m sure they all know that! So even tho I don’t have a dog in the fight I pay close attention to sixman schools in my area. I have pretty strong feelings about the disaster that is lohn and the up and coming eden program as well as the downward spiral of the panther creek panthers as well. At the end of the day all any adult wants is the people in charge to treat people fairly, put students and education first, and to see that tough decisions can be made by those leaders when needed to reignite a spark in the schools moral and performance when it’s needed! Food for thought..... what if rigdon left for Cherokee, lohn, or PC and we could add that school to the contender list for district championship and watch the competitiveness of the coaches/teams go way up as none of them(cherry, rigdon,burkhart, Rogers) would want to accept a L from the other?? Sounds exciting!!
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby One _pac2018 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:20 am

This site isn’t called academics! It’s called sixman football . Who cares about Academics on here lol ? Should be know one considering we are on this website for football ! Lol if your a stud you will graduate ! So be good at sports!
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby TebowTime15 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:32 am

The students scores are not near as impressive as the football scores, but no one is talking about that because of the championships Richland Springs holds.


Everyone's test scores stink on ice! That's not news worthy! I heard on the news that in some Baltimore schools that not a single kid in THE ENTIRE schools can pass the basic standard on English and Math. I think you go help them because RS at least has a few!

The saddest thing is that things don't change if you continue to keep doing them the same way. The school board keeps letting Burkhart come back and yet again same old same old. So until Richland Springs makes some changes they are a joke to the rest of the world.


Cleveland let LeBron come back and won their first ring in 64 years. I would say Jerry Burkhart and Landon Burkhart equal LeBronesque talent.

Can Jerry win #10? (I think it's #10 at least!) Rankin really screwed up; poor Jerry probably had to take a pay cut to go back to RS.
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby FCSA football » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:41 pm

Well apparently everyone ended up where they are for now soooooo.....
Let’s play football!
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby olderelk » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:54 pm

If we wasn't where we are...where would we be?
Depends on how good the football program is.
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby 6manfamily » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:46 pm

FCSA football wrote:Well apparently everyone ended up where they are for now soooooo.....
Let’s play football!



Everyone is ready for some Friday night lights!!!
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby wrenchman540 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:00 pm

It looks like the recruiting issue has split to another session but I guess I will stay with this one. Of course the one thing no one has mentioned is money. Making the playoffs and winning state championships equals money coming into a school district. And just because it's been done in the past doesn't make it ok. stopping it starts with coaches, then administrators and then school boards.the uil can only make so many rules and if you choose to it's easy to work around it. the easiest way is with teachers and coaches. they move a lot anyway. so as their talented kids approach high school age their value goes up. of course every town wants the prestige of a state championship, it just wouldn't seem that valuable if you're cheating to get one. or 7 or 8.
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby Texlonghorn75 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:44 pm

wrenchman540 wrote:It looks like the recruiting issue has split to another session but I guess I will stay with this one. Of course the one thing no one has mentioned is money. Making the playoffs and winning state championships equals money coming into a school district. And just because it's been done in the past doesn't make it ok. stopping it starts with coaches, then administrators and then school boards.the uil can only make so many rules and if you choose to it's easy to work around it. the easiest way is with teachers and coaches. they move a lot anyway. so as their talented kids approach high school age their value goes up. of course every town wants the prestige of a state championship, it just wouldn't seem that valuable if you're cheating to get one. or 7 or 8.

In sixman football one or two players can make the difference in winning and losing when the supporting cast of both opponents are similar in talent. Since a lot of teams have the same players on both offense and defense you are talking about eight to ten primary players who carry the load in games. That was my experience when I played and what I observed with opposing teams. We didn't play the Borden County or Garden City type schools who fielded up to sixty players on their squads(probably included some jv players too). It of course can vary, I noticed Milford played pretty much the same eight to ten players last year except when they had a blow out win. I think that may be the 45 point rule might be better implemented at the end of the third quarter to give second team players a chance to play more. it couldn't hurt. Fans make the trip and paid their ticket, let them watch the kids play a little longer. Or if the coaches are against that idea, agree to let their respective second team players scrimmage each other for ten minutes after the game has ended. They came to play right? I'm sure the kids would like scrimmaging at night in front of their friends and parents too. A new wrinkle or idea to keep the players more engaged.
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby 6manfamily » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:49 pm

Texlonghorn75 wrote:
wrenchman540 wrote:It looks like the recruiting issue has split to another session but I guess I will stay with this one. Of course the one thing no one has mentioned is money. Making the playoffs and winning state championships equals money coming into a school district. And just because it's been done in the past doesn't make it ok. stopping it starts with coaches, then administrators and then school boards.the uil can only make so many rules and if you choose to it's easy to work around it. the easiest way is with teachers and coaches. they move a lot anyway. so as their talented kids approach high school age their value goes up. of course every town wants the prestige of a state championship, it just wouldn't seem that valuable if you're cheating to get one. or 7 or 8.

In sixman football one or two players can make the difference in winning and losing when the supporting cast of both opponents are similar in talent. Since a lot of teams have the same players on both offense and defense you are talking about eight to ten primary players who carry the load in games. That was my experience when I played and what I observed with opposing teams. We didn't play the Borden County or Garden City type schools who fielded up to sixty players on their squads(probably included some jv players too). It of course can vary, I noticed Milford played pretty much the same eight to ten players last year except when they had a blow out win. I think that may be the 45 point rule might be better implemented at the end of the third quarter to give second team players a chance to play more. it couldn't hurt. Fans make the trip and paid their ticket, let them watch the kids play a little longer. Or if the coaches are against that idea, agree to let their respective second team players scrimmage each other for ten minutes after the game has ended. They came to play right? I'm sure the kids would like scrimmaging at night in front of their friends and parents too. A new wrinkle or idea to keep the players more engaged.


I agree completely with this idea, I hate mercy rule games, especially with a sideline full of young kids in clean jerseys
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby Texlonghorn75 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:55 pm

TebowTime15 wrote:
The students scores are not near as impressive as the football scores, but no one is talking about that because of the championships Richland Springs holds.


Everyone's test scores stink on ice! That's not news worthy! I heard on the news that in some Baltimore schools that not a single kid in THE ENTIRE schools can pass the basic standard on English and Math. I think you go help them because RS at least has a few!

The saddest thing is that things don't change if you continue to keep doing them the same way. The school board keeps letting Burkhart come back and yet again same old same old. So until Richland Springs makes some changes they are a joke to the rest of the world.


Cleveland let LeBron come back and won their first ring in 64 years. I would say Jerry Burkhart and Landon Burkhart equal LeBronesque talent.

Can Jerry win #10? (I think it's #10 at least!) Rankin really screwed up; poor Jerry probably had to take a pay cut to go back to RS.

Maybe Rankin didn't screw up and Jerry wins #9 anyway!
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Re: Coaching Carousel

Postby coyotefan » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:23 pm

JB will win number nine with or without Rigdon!
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