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Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:52 pm
by JH PACER COACH
I love 6 man football, so with that said I have a question for all the wise 6 man fans. Going off of this year and not the past, how would the best public school teams fair against the best private school teams? Take the top 3 teams from UIL, TAPPS, TCAL, TCAF, and TAIAO put them in a playoff scenario and who comes out on top?

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:03 pm
by ATMmom
May just played Waco Vanguard last week. May won 60 a 14. At the time May was ranked 14th in Division 1 and Vanguard was the top team in their division.....

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:42 pm
by tdog5344
D1 18th ranked Mclean jyst played tapps D1 3rd ranked san jacinto and won 63 to 14

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:09 pm
by JH PACER COACH
Okay. So according to the scores of these and probably other games this year, is it safe to say that public schools versus private schools wouldn't even be a contest?

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:14 pm
by rainjacktx
Privates, except for rare exceptions, are head and shoulders beneath publics. It's just the way it is.

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:01 pm
by 51eleven
One exception was Rusty Russell and the Mighty Mites of the Fort Worth Masonic Home.
He invented the spread. Of course they weren't six man then. But they converted to keep playing. Strawn played them a few times 15 years or so ago.

https://www.amazon.com/Twelve-Mighty-Or ... ghty+mites

But today, RJ, though I hate to ever admit it, is right.

Forgive me goob.

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:52 am
by FCSA football
"the Twelve Mighty Orphans" by Jim Dent is a great read and I recommend it highly.
I agree, with possibly a few very exceptions over the years, the best private programs simply cannot compete
with the best public schools. It must be something in the water.

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:22 am
by SicEm74
Or funds

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:07 am
by rainjacktx
Dallas Covenant from 4-5 years ago is the only private I've seen that could, and did, compete with the best of the public schools. But they've since gone to crowded field, and now the universe is back to normal.

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:13 am
by CoachBrinkman
One thing to take into consideration in the discussion is the simple fact that 98% of the public schools would lose to the top ranked D1 and D2 teams. I personally know of a lot of private schools who compete and win against the average public schools. I think most people would agree that Sterling City is a good football program, but Richland Springs won that game hands down last week. I will agree that for the most part the private schools don't get that dominate team like Richland Springs has been, BUT neither has 98% of public schools. So, somehow I am agreeing but disagreeing!

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:29 am
by granger
There are always a few private schools that come along and can compete with the top public schools.

El Paso Jesus Chapel comes to mind from long ago.

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:47 am
by 1987
2011 Abilene Christian lost to Ira by 8. I believe Ira was ranked #1 at the time. The next year or so Dallas Covenant beat Throckmorton who I also believe was #1. There are times when privates can compete with the best publics, it's just been a few years.

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:57 am
by rainjacktx
CoachBrinkman wrote:One thing to take into consideration in the discussion is the simple fact that 98% of the public schools would lose to the top ranked D1 and D2 teams. I personally know of a lot of private schools who compete and win against the average public schools. I think most people would agree that Sterling City is a good football program, but Richland Springs won that game hands down last week. I will agree that for the most part the private schools don't get that dominate team like Richland Springs has been, BUT neither has 98% of public schools. So, somehow I am agreeing but disagreeing!


Most years, even mediocre public school teams will handily throttle the top ranked privates.

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:27 pm
by CoachBrinkman
I have coached both and I just don't agree with you 100%. I'm not going to take the time to go through years of data, but to use a few games from this year:
D1 current ranked #8 Union Hill is 5-0 and their closest game has been a private school 96-78.
D1 current ranked #19 Anton 5-1 closest game was a private school 66-64. (Other than loss)
D1 current ranked #26 Medina 6-0 closest game was a private school 16-37
D2 current ranked #9 Calvert closest game was a private school 46-62.
My point is that most private schools don't play a lot of public schools, but when they do they represent themselves well a lot of the times. Definitely Not a hands down beating you reference. Of course those happen too, but not fair to private schools to say they can't play with public schools.

Re: Better 6 man football?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:12 pm
by CoachBrinkman
Abilene Christian and Midland Trinity seem to field some pretty solid teams most years.