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All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:01 am
by Leman Saunders
Food for thought...

1995 Six-Man football had 84 teams, 29 possible players selected to 1st team and 2nd team All-State combined with 1 Player of the year (who was also 1st team all state) and 1 coach of the year: so 30 possible players honored (not counting honorable mentions). 6 offensive positions (QB, RB, E, C, K, Kick returner) and 4 defensive positions (Linemen, Linebackers, Safety, Punter)
Note: Dewayne Miles was player of the year, 1st team RB and 1st team linebacker; Petey Saliaz was 1st team RB and 2nd team linebacker; Noah Williams was 1st team offensive end and 2nd team punter

2016 D2 Six-Man football had 69 teams: a player of the year, offensive player of the year, defensive player of the year, newcomer of the year, and coach of the year (none of which are on the all state teams) and 52 players selected for 1st team and 2nd team all state combined...total of 56 possible players honored (also 46 players named to Honorable Mention) 11 offensive positions and 7 defensive positions.

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:17 pm
by 51eleven
Hi Leman. I know your the Guru of sixman history and was wondering where you find info on the 95 all state team. My question relates to one I asked during the season. The all state teams from the early 2000's forward were on the old sixman coaches website but not the new one. I asked if the new site might be updated and if anyone knew where to find info on previous years. I think there should be a repository for this information somewhere on the internet. The coaches association, here - as the site's being reconfigured/moved soon, lonestarfootball, the uil or wherever.
I know I would use such a resource regarding comments I make here. I think others would find it of interest also. I see some 9th grader telling a team mate "my dad was all state in 200_" or "my granddad was in 198_ or 199_. "See"!
I could see people like you, Granger, HPD, OBK, many (other) Coaches, Mr. Parks, the spirit of Don Hardin and several more supporting such an effort. But I don't know how to make it happen myself. I lack both the technological and historical expertise or perspective.

I guess I'm beating dead horse here but beat it I will. Nobody else here cares or is willing to help? Coaches, Guru, OBK, Leman, UIL (ha), Texas Football Magazine- Mr. Campbell. Please, in the name of History of the game and those who made it what it is.
Will anyone remember the contributions of Dewayne Miles, Lyle Campbell, Jonathon Parsons or that guy from Trinidad in 98 in 5 - 10 years?

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:58 pm
by 51eleven
As I meant to say, OBK is the unquestioned Guru regarding sixman history but Leman is carrying the torch forward...

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:12 pm
by Edward Golden
In the 70's-80's they had 6 1st team off and def. Plus kicker and punter. They had same for 2nd team.

There was only one division...So 28 1st and 2nd teamers.

Now an incredible amount plus two divisions. But hey, at least everyone gets a trophy...Right?

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:01 pm
by Johnny South
Politically rigged this year! You say everyone gets a trophy? Some did that actually probably didn't deserve to. Some of the best didn't even get honorable mention! Not that All-State means a whole lot, but they should be chosen by skill and accomplishment.
But it has happened before and will happen again. It all depends on who is on the committee.

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:54 pm
by smokeyjoe53
51eleven wrote:As I meant to say, OBK is the unquestioned Guru regarding sixman history but Leman is carrying the torch forward...

So, you're implying OBK is old and incapable of coherent thought processes?................ If so I completely agree....................

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:44 pm
by 51eleven
smokeyjoe53 wrote:
51eleven wrote:As I meant to say, OBK is the unquestioned Guru regarding sixman history but Leman is carrying the torch forward...

So, you're implying OBK is old and incapable of coherent thought processes?................ If so I completely agree....................


Well his handle does stand for OLD Bearkat... but I can't say much as I think he's about the same age as me.
Regarding the "coherent thought processes" that's one reason I'd like to see all the all state teams possible listed somewhere. So when We get to Your age if we can't remember who was what year we will have a place to look. If we can remember our passwords (thank goodness for auto login, though I don't need it Yet).

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:57 pm
by smokeyjoe53
I forgot what we were discussing...........

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:59 pm
by Old Bearkat
smokeyjoe53 wrote:
51eleven wrote:As I meant to say, OBK is the unquestioned Guru regarding sixman history but Leman is carrying the torch forward...

So, you're implying OBK is old and incapable of coherent thought processes?................ If so I completely agree....................



I agree. No wait!! I disageree....

What was it you said????

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:01 pm
by 51eleven
smokeyjoe53 wrote:I forgot what we were discussing...........


Do you use auto login yet? Just for quick access of course?

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:19 pm
by 51eleven
I forgot to remember to for get but Older Elk reminded me it Elvis's fault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n_m3q7XYz4

Oh, um, I forgot. It's the second song on this link.

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:46 am
by Old Bearkat
smokeyjoe53 wrote:I forgot what we were discussing...........


No dain bramage....

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:05 am
by smokeyjoe53
Old Bearkat wrote:
smokeyjoe53 wrote:I forgot what we were discussing...........


No dain bramage....

Misspent youth..............

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:22 pm
by Johnny South
I tried to copy and paste the all state list from the sixman coaches assn website to here, but it was a total mess so I deleted it. Some computer guru may be able to get a better take on it.
Congratulations to all the kids whose names were listed. But, actually, there may have been a few all-staters who wouldn't have even started for the top teams.

Re: All State Teams...Food for Thought

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:53 pm
by 51eleven
Thanks for the post Johnny. I didn't know it was out yet.
Here, ya go.

http://texassixman.pointstreaksites.com ... football-2

Who do you, or anybody else think might have deserved consideration that was not included?