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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:47 pm

sinfonian wrote:When I coached at Novice, we had a banner hanging on the wall saying that our girls had been the basketball state champions. The date pre-dated the UIL sanctioned girls state championships. Who would know what league existed for girls before the UIL and if any records are available?


I don't know. I never knew that. remind me later and i'll look into it.
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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:54 pm

OK, it's been a while. lot of stuff went down this summer and fall and now I'm getting back into digging into old newspapers again this week. For those of you who did not know, I got laid off from Westinghouse nuclear on August 1st as part of the bankruptcy re-org. However, I saw it coming quite a while before and made arrangements and I had a job in hand when the layoff notices came out. Then, just as I was getting ready to get back into digging around, I decided to remodel the basement bedroom and long story short, and accident caused me to completely tear two tendons in my right shoulder rotator cuff and severely tear the biceps tendon. The surgeon said it looked like a bomb went off in my shoulder after the surgery was complete on Feb 13th.

Now I have lots of spare time until I get done with rehab in about 5 months, 'til then doctor's orders, NO HEAVY LIFTING!!.
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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:02 pm

I decided to get back into the old east Texas 6 man schools. I noticed the Archive now had the Liberty, Tx newspapers, so I started digging into Devers, China, Batson, Orangefield, High Island, Sabine Pass scores.

One little gem was the China Lions. They started football in District 17B 6 man in 1946 and won the district title their first year, only to lose to Sweeny in bi-district. In 1947 they swept to a perfect district record again and took the title on October 31st, but the next week allegations that they had an ineligible player surfaced the next week, and sure enough they did. It seems one Lion took prize money at a rodeo the previous summer, a big no-no for the UIL. China was stripped of their title, but since they did not know about the rodeo prize money, they did not have to forfeit their games. Winnie, High Island, Devers, Hamshire, and Orangefield were all tied for second place with 4-3 records, so the district committee did a lottery where all 5 schools names were put in a hat and a blindfolded guy drew a slip of paper for Orangefield, who proceeded on to the bi district game to get destroyed by Pearland.
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Re: 6 man History

Postby olderelk » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:51 am

Old Bearkat wrote:
sinfonian wrote:When I coached at Novice, we had a banner hanging on the wall saying that our girls had been the basketball state champions. The date pre-dated the UIL sanctioned girls state championships. Who would know what league existed for girls before the UIL and if any records are available?


I don't know. I never knew that. remind me later and i'll look into it.

There's a bunch of stuff here.
http://drbillywilbanks.com/basketball/
This is from the Intro:
INTRODUCTION A total of 704 boys and girls teams in Texas have won state high school championships from 1921-2012. There have been 377 boys teams (1921-2013) and 285 girls teams (1951-2013) crowned as state champions by the UIL since 1921. In additon, the "High School Girls Basketball League of Texas" (HSGBLT) named 17 state girls champions from 1939-1954 and the A.A.U. crowned 25 state champions in its state tournaments in 1925-1950. Information on all 704 of these championship teams is provided on this website.
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Re: 6 man History

Postby CT6MFL » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:05 pm

Ole Billy is from the Temple Area, has a lot of stuff on football and track as well.

http://www.drbillywilbanks.com/home.html
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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:53 pm

CT6MFL wrote:Ole Billy is from the Temple Area, has a lot of stuff on football and track as well.

http://www.drbillywilbanks.com/home.html


The site has been suspended.
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Re: 6 man History

Postby CT6MFL » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:58 am

Was working the day I checked it. Maybe site maintenance or something.
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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Sat May 19, 2018 3:05 pm

CT6MFL wrote:Was working the day I checked it. Maybe site maintenance or something.


It is still suspended.....
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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Sat May 19, 2018 3:07 pm

I may have posted this before, but....

Six-Man Group
Meets Monday
Officiating of the past two weeks
and a rundown on the 1946 amendments
to the rules will be discussed
at Monday's meeting of the
Six-Man Football Coaches and Officials'
association, which, will be
held in the district court room of
the county court bourse.
The organization, who is designed
to improve the caliber of game
calling in West Texas six-man
ago and will meet ck-xe
circles, was formed two weeks ago
and will meet every other Monday
throughout the current season.
Principal speakers at Monday
night's session will be H. J. Hitt,
Ted Phillips and Chesney Mc-
Donald. Hltt will center his talk
on punting, klckoffs and the various
penalties resulting from rules
violations in the part of the game.
Phillips will confine his oration to
substitutions and times out while
McDonald will address the group
on passing.
Members of (the group are expected
here from Sterling City,
Forsan, Garden City, Mertzon,
Courtney, San Angelo, Union,
Knott and Coahoma.


From the Big Spring Daily Herald 9/29/1946
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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Sat May 19, 2018 3:14 pm

From the BS Herald in 1974

By CLARK LESHER
Gary Harrell, coach and principal has his hands full
at Grady High School. He's trying to put over a first year
football program which has had its share of "problems."

Last year, Grady took Flower Grove's 1B
basketball position. Flower Grove was consolidated with
Klondike. A brand new gymnasium was built in 1973.
This autumn. Grady took over the gridiron spot formerly
occupied by Cotton Center and which dropped
from the scene. Prior to last year, prep students from
Grady attended Stanton.

Grady, with Gary in charge, three years ago
started off enrollment as an elementary school.
"The main problem faced is getting enough students
out to field a team" Grady first had 14 report down to
the present 13, and competes in eight-man.
"Our boys have a real good outlook," Gary said. "They
do their jobs well, and realize the school is
somewhat at a disadvantage."

Grady, though winless in six games and without a
homefield. has showed steady improvement. A
stadium is to be completed before the 1975 season rolls
around. The playing field has been sodded to accommodate
workouts.

Grady has two games left on the 1974 calendar —
Whitharrel today and Southland. Nov. 8. Gary
thinks "we have a good chance to beat both of
them." Harrel thinks his team will be able to compete
with any eight-man football squad next fall.
Grady loses five seniors after completion of the 1974
gridiron sport. Two juniors and three sophomores will
return. An outstanding eighth grade football team
will boaster Grady's forces next year.

Grady's girls' basketball season starts Nov. 12.
Southland is the named opponent with the game
earmarked for the Grady gym. The boy's squad
initiate court action Nov. 15 at Fluvanna.
Grady travels to all football games by school
bus.
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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Sun May 20, 2018 4:30 pm

CT6MFL wrote:tjc


All your posts on pages 13 and 14 are missing the pictures.......
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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Sun May 20, 2018 5:33 pm

Leman Saunders wrote:Here you go:

1954 Six-Man Football Districts with Enrollments
(Underlined District Winners)
168 schools playing six-man

Region 1
District 1: Booker (48.88), Channing (39.54), Follett (71.89), Miami (46.74), Mobeetie (48.73), Morse (19.68)
District 2: Bula (57.43), Cotton Center (52.54), Lazbuddie (77.17), New Home (68.89), Pettit (37.43), Spade (56.42), Smyer (54.84), Southland (34.03), Three Way (76.54)
District 3: Dickens (23.96), Flomot (32.96), Girard (53.45), Guthrie (25.27), Jayton (53.96), Peacock (52.33), Patton Springs (60.12), Roaring Springs (58.44)
District 4: Benjamin (35.87), Goree (77.26), McCaulley (63.50), Mattson (22.10), O’Brien (38.29), Paint Creek (50.84), Vera (24.13), Weinert (59.21)

Region 2
District 5: Balmorhea (45.92), Barstow (29.76), Buena Vista (41.64), Clint (49.00), Dell City (21.77), Fort Davis (50.86), Marathon (50.33), Pyote (16.64), Sierra Blanca (28.03), Tornillo (20.38), Toyah (22.00)
District 6: Ackerly (68.20), Borden County (34.80), Courtney (36.48), Dawson (59.08), Flower Grove (45.03), Klondike (59.87), Knott (47.64), Loop (54.18)
District 7: Blackwell (48.44), Christoval (33.11), Divide (48.82), Forsan (66.26), Garden City (54.19), Mertzon (62.53), Sterling City (53.02), Water Valley (53.48)
District 8: Eola (44.36), Lohn (43.55), Miles (63.76), Millersview (20.31), Norton (37.45), Paint Rock (28.91), Talpa (39.45)


Region 3
District 9: Brookesmith (49.41), Lawn (41.92), Mozelle (56.67), Mullin (63.61), Novice (53.04), Sidney (42.30), Star (34.23)
District 10: Buckholts (55.77), Copperas Cove (71.02), Flat (53.62), Jarrell (55.97), Pearl (42.01), Sharp (61.60)
District 11: Briggs (44.47), Buda (69.49), Hutto (62.31), Kyle (62.96), Pflugerville (61.94), Prairie Lea (44.39)
District 12: Center Point (46.75), Comfort (100.63), Harper (67.09), Medina (59.18)

Region 4
District 13: Harrold (40.14), Northside (61.76), Odell (42.19), Oklaunion (51.04)
District 14: Allen (48.07), Blue Ridge (76.98), Celina (68.86), Collinsville (78.55), Gunter (56.85), Lone Oak (64.42), Prosper (68.79), Westminster (39.76), Community (?none given?)
District 15: Mt. Calm (30.83), Palmer (45.75), Rice (40.03), Richland (40.11), Trinidad (46.41), Venus (46.82)
District 16: Carlton (37.46), Fairy (44.00), Gustine (78.25), Iredell (60.22), Jonesboro (76.83), Pottsville (55.32), Turnerville (50.28)

Region 5
District 17: Annona (73.78), Avery (104.08), Elysian Fields (51.40), Harleton (48.20), Karnack (50.70), Kildare (36.00), Pickton (69.19), Union Hill (65.03), Waskom (67.18), Winfield (30.73)
District 18: Coolidge (55.94), Jewett (32.99), Kosse (25), Marquez (36.74), Normangee (74.53), Oakwood (50.73), Prairie Hill (38.77), Thornton (34)
District 19: Cold Springs (99.68), Goodrich (45.69), Montgomery (58.18), New Carney (92.73), New Waverly (47.43), Shepherd (65.92), Splendora (86.86), Tarkington (103.01)
District 20: Batson (46.71), China (98.51), Fannett (67.78), Hamshire (57.62), High Island (37.07), Honey Island (62.79), Orangefield (93.22)

Region 6
District 21: Friendswood (51.81), Garwood (60.11), Hitchcock (90.59), Sheridan (41.82), Wallis (55.30)
District 22: Nordheim (71.99), Skidmore (66.53), Smiley (33.42), Tilden (25)
District 23: Barksdale (34.89), Camp Wood (24.97), D’Hanis (47.97), Knippa (28.04), La Pryor (56.28), Leakey (64.21), Utopia (32.79), Yancey (16.09)
District 24: Riviera (58.67), San Perlita (57.92), Santa Rosa (47.83), Sharyland (60.79)

-note- the 3 schools over 100, Comfort, Avery, Tarkington, are all circled on the UIL official list…not sure what it means yet


Bumping this one. many of these schools are still playing 6 man and their enrollments look much the same......
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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Sun May 20, 2018 5:53 pm

Old Bearkat wrote:As someone in another thread put it, the yo-yo effect. Schools that have switched from one style of football to another several times.

Balmorhea: 11 man 1936-1937, 6 man 1938-1964, 11 man 1965-1983, 6 man since 1986
Benjamin: 6 man 1940-1959, 8 man 1960-1964, 6 man since 1965
Blackwell: 11 man 1930-1933, 6 man 1938-1947, 11 man 1948-1951, 6man since 1952
Borden Conty: 6 man 1952-1957, 8 man 1958-1975, 11 man 1976-1979, 6 man since 1980
Buena Vista: 6 man 1938-1957, 8 man 1958-1965, 11 man 1966-1984, 6 man since 1985
Christoval: 11 man 1946-1947, 6 man 1948-1957, 8 man 1958, no fb 1959, 6 man 1960-1993, 11 man since 1994
Cotton Center: 6 man 1953-1961, 8 man 1962-1973, no fb 1974-1975, 6 man since 1976
Follett: 11 man 1922-1941, 6 man 1945-1954, 11 man 1955-1971, 8 man 1972-1975, 11 man 1976-1988, 6 man since 1989
Fort Hancock: 11 man 1941-1953, 6 man 1954-1965, 11 man 1966-1983, 6 man 1984-1993, 11 man 1994-2007, Outlaw 6 man since 2008
Garden City: 6 man 1938-1957, 8 man 1958-1975, 11 man 1976-2003, 6 man since 2004
Grandfalls: 11 man 1935-1947, 6 man 1948-1950, 11 man 1951-1959, 8 man 1960-1961, 11 man 1962-1992, 6 man since 1993
Groom: 11 man 1923-1938, 6 man 1939-1945, 11 man 1946-1987, 6 man 1988-1993, 11 man 1994-1995, 6 man since 1996
Guthrie: 6 man 1949-1957, 8 man 1958-1972, no fb 1973, 6 man since 1974
Harper: 6 man 1946-1961, 8 man 1962-1975, 11 man 1976-1981, 6 man 1982-1991, 11 man since 1992
Harrold: 6 man 1938-1957, 8 man 1958-1975, 6 man since 1976
Hermleigh: 11 man 1936-1969, 6 man 1970-2003, 11 man 2004-2005, 6 man since 2006
Highland: 6 man 1943, 11 man 1946-1952, no FB 1953-1958, 6 man since 1959
Irion County: 11 man 1933-1941, 6 man 1946-1957, 8 man 1958-1959, 6 man 1960-1975, 11 man since 1976
Jayton: 11 man 1925-1943, 6 man 1944-1946, 1952-1957 (no fb 1947-1951), 8 man 1958-1963, 11 man 1964-1983, 6 man since 1984
Klondike: 11 man 1936-1938, 6 man 1940-1957, 8 man 1958-1975, 11 man 1976-1985, 6 man since 1986
Knox City:11 man 1921-1935, 6 man 1940-1951, 11 man 1952-2005, 6 man since 2006
Loop: 6 man 1946-1957, 8 man 1958-1975, 6 man since 1976
May: 11 man 1930-1967, 6 man 1968-1997, 11 man 1998-2003, 6 man since 2004
Medina 6 man 1948-1961, 8 man 1962-19751, 11 man 1972-2013, 6 man since 2014
Miami: 11 man 1919-1945, 6 man 1946-1959, 8 man 1960-1962, 11 man 1963-1965, 8 man 1966-1975, 11 man 1976-1981, 6 man since 1982
Nazareth: 6 man 1956-1961, 8 man 1962-1963, 11 man 1964-2011, 6 man 2012
Northside: 6 man 1952-1957, 8 man 1958-1975, 6 man since 1976
Nueces Canyon: 6 man 1955-1961, 8 man 1962-1973, 11 man 1974-2015,6 man since 2016
Rankin: 11 man 1928-1946, 6 man 1947-1951, 11 man 1952-2005, 6 man since 2006
Ropes: 11 man 1935-1989, 6 man 1990-1997, 11 man 1998-1999, 6 man since 2000
Sands: 8 man 1959, 11 man 1960-1963, 8 man 1964-1967, 11 man 1968-1985, 6 man since 1986
Sierra Blanca: 6 man 1946-1963, 8 man 1965-1966, 6 man 1967-1975, 11 man 1976-1983, 6 man since 1984
Smyer: 6 man 1951-1957, 8 man 1958-1975, 11 man 1976-1984, 6 man 1985-1993, 11 man since 1994
Southland: 11 man 1938-1941, 6 man 1942-1957, 8 man 1958-1969, 6 man 1970-1973, 8 man 1974-1975, 6 man since 1976
Sterling City: 6 man 1938-1957, 8 man 1958-1973, 11 man 1974-2007, 6 man since 2008
Trent: 11 man 1933-1936, 6 man 1938-1943, 11 man 1945-1969, no fb 1970, 6 man since 1971
Valley: 11 man 1972-1989, 6 man 1990-1993, 11 man 1994-1999, 6 man since 2000
Water Valley: 6 man 1938-1957, 8 man 1958-1959, 6 man 1960-1979, 11 man 1980-2001, 6 man since 2002
Welch Dawson: 6 man 1951-1957, 8 man 1958-1959, 6 man 1960-1961, 8 man 1962-1975, 11 man 1976-1979, 6 man since 1980
Wellman: 11 man 1950-1954, 6 man 1955-1957, 8 man 1958-1975, 6 man since 1976
Whitharral: 11 man 1938-1943, 6 man 1944-1945, 11 man 1946-1963, 8 man 1964-1975, 6 man since 1976
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Re: 6 man History

Postby Old Bearkat » Sun May 20, 2018 8:18 pm

Are there any Perrin-Whitt fans on here now?
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Re: 6 man History

Postby freeagent » Sun May 20, 2018 10:18 pm

District 11 --- Both Kyle and Buda high schools are now schools with enrollments over 2400.
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